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Old 18-06-2013, 09:09   #16
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

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Well, you need an ablative, that's the first thing. But I do not deal with trailerable boats in my business, so maybe others here can give a specific product that will work well for you. I am unqualified to do so.
Thanks for narrowing the field!
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Old 18-06-2013, 17:41   #17
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Just got a quote for micron 66 in French polynesia for 6400 fcp or $753 aud per gallon (4L)

On my beneteau 393 (39ft) I will need 10L so that's $2,259.00 just to buy the anti foul.

Does that pricing and quantity sound correct?
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Old 18-06-2013, 17:46   #18
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

Looks like your boat could be painted here in Alameda for just over $3300US. That includes materials and labor.
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

Congrats MDR!

I'm surprised fstbttms is recommending an ablative for a trailerable. Given the abrasion that the boat will see getting on/off the trailer, I'd have thought a hard paint more appropriate.

I never bothered with bottom paint on my F-27GS, but the most time she ever spent in the water was about 2wk.

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Old 18-06-2013, 19:03   #20
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

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I'm surprised fstbttms is recommending an ablative for a trailerable. Given the abrasion that the boat will see getting on/off the trailer, I'd have thought a hard paint more appropriate.
Hard paints cannot withstand prolonged exposure to air, making them unsuitable for boats that live on trailers.
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Old 18-06-2013, 20:25   #21
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Alameda is only about 10,000 miles of course

The yacht already had some soft anti foul (brand unknown) that is mostly rubbed off without sanding but I do not know what brand it is, do I need to do a primer first to put on the micron 66?
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Old 18-06-2013, 21:05   #22
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

I've had great service from Micron Extra. Might see if that is cheaper than 66. Got 3 plus years out of a single coat. It was nearly gone from the water line and other places when I hauled but still keeping the critters from glomming on.

Standard Vinyl paints lose their anti fouling capabilities if kept out of the water. Doesn't take long for it to happen. They do make a hard paint for trailerable boats though don't know what it is or how well it works.
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Old 18-06-2013, 21:11   #23
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

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The yacht already had some soft anti foul (brand unknown) that is mostly rubbed off without sanding but I do not know what brand it is, do I need to do a primer first to put on the micron 66?
Probably not.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/MPYACMData...Y+20130318.pdf
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

Seahawk paints are excellent on the east coast. If you are buying /applying outside the US, they offer paints with TBT which outlast and outperform paints available in the US.

Paints with TBT can legally be sourced and applied on the Bahamas and points south.
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Paints with TBT can legally be sourced and applied on the Bahamas...
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

No TBT paints in the Bahamas? When did that start?
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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

TBT is phenomenally nasty ****...

from Wikipedia: "Concerns over toxicity of these compounds have led to a worldwide ban by the International Maritime Organization.[2] It is now considered a severe marine pollutant."

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Re: Anti foul, bottom paint, soft, medium or hard?

It's my understanding that the supply of TBT paint dried up several years ago. It worked too well so production was stopped quite a while ago. Places where it was not banned outright got the warehouse supplies from the manufacturers but they are now gone.
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Wrong.
No, you are wrong... So there!
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It's my understanding that the supply of TBT paint dried up several years ago. It worked too well so production was stopped quite a while ago. Places where it was not banned outright got the warehouse supplies from the manufacturers but they are now gone.
Not only is TBT still available, but it is produced right here in the USA.

Products Overview

Check the link, look at paint under "export only". Chances are if you get your boat painted in many yards in the Carribean, it has TBT on it. Why?

Simple, because it works well.
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