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25-09-2011, 16:34
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Carolina
Boat: Manta 42
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Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
Doing our first haul out and bottom recoat. From the survey and our own inspection, the bottom is in good shape and the previous antifouling appears very good. We don't anticipate removing any of the existing coating. We're planning on a light sanding after the pressure wash.
Looking at various manufacturers and comparing. Interlux Micron 66 looks good, but we're wondering what others' experiences have been on the products they've used and your recommendations.
S/V Galileo
Pamlico River, NC
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25-09-2011, 17:13
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Boat: Far East Mariner 40
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
I just did mine with Blue Water Copper Shield. tested superior to many and the price is very good. www.bluewatermarinepaint.com
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25-09-2011, 17:47
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Resin Head

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat 52
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
I like Trinidad SR.
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25-09-2011, 18:02
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Fl
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
You might check with the local boat yards for their recommendations as every part of US has different water conditions and effective bottom paints will differ. Micron 66 is very good bottom paint for central Fl. We have used SeaHawk Islands 44 for a few years with superb results but it has to be purchased outside of the US. You can get it in the Bahamas.
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25-09-2011, 21:10
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Miami Florida
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
Do you know what type of paint is on the boat now? Some paints are not compatable with others. You will also have to decide if you want to use a hard paint or an ablative paint. The hard paints, like Trinadad build up and need to be removed eventually. The ablatives, like Micron 66, disolve over time like a bar of soap. When you start to see gelcoat, it's time to repaint. If you're going to have a diver wipe your bottom often, the hard paint will hold up better. With either Micron 66 or Trinadad SR, you shouldn't need a diver for at least a year, maybe to clean the running gear. What ever paint you use, buy one with a slime killer in it. Pettit Paints will have SR (slime resistant) in their name and Interlux Paints will say with Biolux. These are the chemicals that replaced Tri Butyl Tin when it was banned. For your prop and shaft I recomend Prop Speed. It's the only thing I've found that will stay effective for any length of time. Pettit makes a zinc based prop coating that I've read good things about but I've never tried it.
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25-09-2011, 23:13
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: On the Great Loop
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
Sea Hawk Islands 44 is tin-based, and is banned in most parts of the world. The Micron 66 is good stuff, better than Micron Extra, but quite expensive. My current bottom is WMP CPP+, which has performed at least as well as the Micron Extra at half the cost.
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26-09-2011, 03:40
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mildy confused and ain't no expert

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Salem MA/Merrimack NH
Boat: Hunter 410
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
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Originally Posted by donradcliffe
Sea Hawk Islands 44 is tin-based, and is banned in most parts of the world. The Micron 66 is good stuff, better than Micron Extra, but quite expensive. My current bottom is WMP CPP+, which has performed at least as well as the Micron Extra at half the cost.
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Just goes to show that the boating area makes a difference. I've used the WM CCP+ and it sucked!
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26-09-2011, 10:12
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Carolina
Boat: Manta 42
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
Our boatyard (Jarrett Bay, North Carolina) is recommending Micron CSC and Sea Hawk Cukote.
I don't know the existing paint on the hull, so will wait to find out when she's lifted out of the water.
Comments, thoughts, recommendations are very welcomed.
S/V Galileo
Pamilco River, NC
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26-09-2011, 10:49
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
I tried the Cukote the last time, the results weren't that good--had barnacles growing in less than 4 months. The CPP+ has been on for about 12 months, in waters from NC to Panama to Hawaii to Calif, and it looks like the biocide is not as effective as it was, because there is now a bit of grassy stuff around the waterline, but no hard growth. I'm not sure how much paint ablates off in 10,000 miles.
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26-09-2011, 14:02
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
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Originally Posted by donradcliffe
I tried the Cukote the last time, the results weren't that good--had barnacles growing in less than 4 months. The CPP+ has been on for about 12 months, in waters from NC to Panama to Hawaii to Calif, and it looks like the biocide is not as effective as it was, because there is now a bit of grassy stuff around the waterline, but no hard growth. I'm not sure how much paint ablates off in 10,000 miles.
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Maybe because you are on the move?
My Cukote seems OK except sitting for 10 days on a ball in Boot Key Harbor. Millions of tiny hard things. At least they rubbed off with relative ease.
What is this CPP+?
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26-09-2011, 14:50
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Join Date: May 2011
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
Perkie43, Neither of the paints recommended by your yard contain a slime preventer. The slime preventer will really extend the life of the paint. Both of the recommended paints have a big brother that does have a slime preventer. It is worth the extra money. If you go with Sea Hawk get Cukote Biocide Plus. If you go with Interlux, get the Micron Extra with Biolux.
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26-09-2011, 15:51
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Central FL
Boat: None. As for a name, let's just say "Wishful Thinking"...
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
has anyone heard or tried the technique/magic-trick/myth of mixing cayenne pepper to your bottom paint to extend the duration of detering bottom critters?
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26-09-2011, 17:26
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Resin Head

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat 52
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
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has anyone heard or tried the technique/magic-trick/myth of mixing cayenne pepper to your bottom paint to extend the duration of detering bottom critters?
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Ever heard of Hotbottom? It didn't make it in the market for a reason. Antifouling properties are good, but applying it sucks. Every little bit of roller spatter you get on your skin burns like fire. It's like painting a bottom with pepperspray. And God forbid you ever have to sand it off...
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10-10-2011, 09:46
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
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With either Micron 66 or Trinadad SR, you shouldn't need a diver for at least a year...
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Absolutely 100% untrue. Very surprising, coming from a Floridian. Here's some proof:
Cal 39- 3-month old Trindad bottom, taken this summer
Beneteau First 10r with a 2-month old Micron 66 bottom, taken winter 2010
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10-10-2011, 09:48
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Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
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Re: Anitfouling Bottom Paint - Your Recommendations
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Originally Posted by heyniceguy
has anyone heard or tried the technique/magic-trick/myth of mixing cayenne pepper to your bottom paint to extend the duration of detering bottom critters?
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This old salt's tale is just like 99% of all the other bullsh*t you hear on the docks- it doesn't work.
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