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Old 12-06-2014, 17:40   #811
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

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The extension really improves the look of the boat. It's rather "chunky" without it. The bad news of the link is the price of the boat. Considering your years of effort, $80k Cad to buy the boat in Turkey means the value of your man hours in sweat equity may be seriously low. Are you sure of the conversion rate?
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Old 16-06-2014, 01:02   #812
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

From some points of view life is all work.

You might as well work at something you like
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Old 16-06-2014, 02:31   #813
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‚ 55,000 - Google Search

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Old 16-06-2014, 13:32   #814
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For sanding down puttied highs that are done with a 1 foot sheet rock trowel, I use a hutchins flexible long board with 36 or 40 grit.

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It flexes enough that you can push on the front end, and put a feather weight touch on the rear edge until it is up onto the high. Makes life a lot easier than using foam blocks like your durablock, or the very hard 3M vinyl backed long boards. Both of those will dig a hole, if you put much pressure onto the board. You can put a layer or two of blue painters tape around the puttied highspot, and keep from digging a low around it.

Once you can't feel any flex where the board rides up onto the high... it isn't high anymore. Kiss it lightly with a stiff board on 80 grit and buzz it down with the DA or 80 on an electric orbital and move to the next spot.

You ought to be getting pretty close to the high build stage. You might consider rolling her in 5 or 6 coats of unthickened neat epoxy, with a lot of white pigment in it. On penny pinching projects, I like to epoxy coat before priming. Once you've amine washed and broken the shine with sanding, Green food coloring in denatured alcohol works great as a guide coat. It soaks into the sanding grooves a touch and shows you the low spots. I normally machine sand out with 80 grit until the green is a haze, and then long board out with 120 and break out the finger tip smoothness indicators.

6 coats of epoxy works out to be about 20 mils dry. To do that with primer you've got a lot more material to get to the same place. 545 goes on 5-7 wet and ends up 2-3 dry.

On big budget jobs I use awlgrip sprayable fairing compound through an airless sprayer and make her brown, but that doesn't help you below the waterline.

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Old 16-06-2014, 13:51   #815
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

Hey Zach

Thanks. I'll try to assimilate all those tips!

I'm gaining better control with the Flexicats and have a new appreciation for the 22 x 4.5' board. It's a real workhorse. I can apply pressure as you suggested on the leading edge and less on the trailing. I think I've gotten most, if not all of my high spots down to a decent level.

My buddy's coming this week, he's an experienced builder and I'll let him be the judge of how well I did on the sides. I do intend to put on a few coats of epoxy to seal up the fairing compound before primer, which is actually a barrier coat much like Interprotect 2000e. I'll use your food coloring guide coat tip too! I do have some 3M dry guide coat but I'll use that after the primer is on.

I'm onto fairing the bottom & keel now. At least I won't have to apply as much care & attention to that as the sides. I did notice today that the Quikfair is much easier to work with at 75 degs than it was at 60. Much better control of it but I had to work faster. I'm working alone so it's all got to be done in relatively small batches.

Thanks for looking in. I really do appreciate the feedback.
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Old 18-06-2014, 13:56   #816
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My buddy Peter came all the way from Montreal today to do some sanding! What a guy!



First he went down the side with a Flexicat then that wasn't 'nuff he jumped up on the boat and started feathering down the tape seams! The man is a virtual Sanding Machine!

I wish I could clone him!

Web Log Updated: M/V She:Kon: Not a whole lotta action
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Old 20-06-2014, 14:17   #817
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Today's update is brief. Yesterday Quikfair'd the stbd bottom panel from about the bow thruster to the back of the keel. A pretty big area to cover. I had intended to go all the way to the transom but by the time I got to the end of the keel it was 95 degs in the shed and the Quikfair was kicking off on the mixing board. Today was spent sanding tape seams and then that entire area I Quikfair'd yesterday.

I made a lot of dust.

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Old 22-06-2014, 11:50   #818
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Took the day off yesterday. Bummed around, got groceries, did the dishes, made the Ole' Woman dinner so it was ready when she got home from work. I know, I'm whipped. Oh well she works hard and has to pay for the boat so I guess I shouldn't complain!

Web log updated: Just a quick update. M/V She:Kon: Took the day off
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Reminds me of an old tune: Web Log Update

Too tired to post more. Standby....
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Old 25-06-2014, 05:23   #820
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I often get asked 'how much is this boat going to cost?', well I've tried to track what we've spent over the years and capture that in a spreadsheet. I've always had a spreadsheet online to share with other builders/dreamers and have now included a couple of spreadsheets on our web log to illustrate what it costs: M/V She:Kon: Added a few features
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Got an extra set of young hands in the shed today! Poor kid, I'll ruin him for sure!

Web log updated: M/V She:Kon: More hands make light work
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I often get asked 'how much is this boat going to cost?', well I've tried to track what we've spent over the years and capture that in a spreadsheet. I've always had a spreadsheet online to share with other builders/dreamers and have now included a couple of spreadsheets on our web log to illustrate what it costs: M/V She:Kon: Added a few features
Those spreadsheets always cost me more than they save me... In order to accurately tabulate such expenses, it takes Rum...

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Those spreadsheets always cost me more than they save me... In order to accurately tabulate such expenses, it takes Rum...
Rum I got!

But I'm not allowed on eBay when I'm on the rum. Admiral's standing order!
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You understand the vicious cycle well...
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Two of us managed to get 5 hrs of sanding in on the keel. A few more hours dealing with little details on the fairing then it's almost ready for epoxy coat then primer. If I were hazard a guess we'll flip this whale over somewhere around the 30th. of this month!
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