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Old 28-09-2013, 11:31   #706
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Re: And So it Begins . . . Knottybuoyz' New Project

Regarding fairing compound.

I use MAS laminating epoxy, which is quite thin, so these ratios may not work for you, but they'll be a good start.

I buy all my powders from Noah's, so if I name something incorrectly, you can go to their website and see where I went wrong. http://www.noahsmarine.com/index.asp?url=IND

For light, non structural fairing, I use 1.5l of mixed epoxy 3 scoops of cabosil and 4-5 scoops of the white fairing filler (balloons?). I use, what I believe is, a 16 oz mixing cup as a scoop. Don't go without cabosil or it'll sand badly and not give you a feather edge. I'm not happy unless it sands like house spackling/drywall compound; Very easily. Play with the ratios until it sands without grabbing the paper too much. It should feel light to sand. This mixture is the best, and will be your "finishing" fairing, and spot putty.

If your paper drags heavily, add more cabosil. If your paper skims the top without taking anything off, use less cabosil.

For structural fairing compound (where you may want to bond something later, under cleats and such). I use 1.5l mixed epoxy, 3 scoops of cabosil and 5 scoops of the red (spheres?) powder. This mixture is more difficult to sand, but is stronger and resists dings and dents better than the white powder.

For structural bog (filling voids, bonding with coves) I use 1.5l mixed epoxy, 6 scoops of Cabosil and 3 scoops of red powder. I'll sometimes substitute a scoop of cotton flock for a scoop of red powder, and can use up to 2 scoops and still have it smooth. After 2 scoops, cotton starts to get lumpy, but it's very strong. So use your discretion. If I use a lumpy cotton mixture, I'll usually follow with a smoother mix before it gets hard. Less sanding to do later... I hate sanding.

This picture shows the paint and fairing we put on the hull just to protect the epoxy from UV while we're building. We start our "finish" fairing next summer.



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Old 28-09-2013, 15:11   #707
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... I hate sanding.
Amen brother! Getting pretty tired of it myself.

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Thanks Paul. I'll be sure to give your recipe a try tomorrow!
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Dammit work gets in the way of having fun building a boat! :-(

The Marine Installers Rant & other misc. ramblings from the boat shed (inc. another home movie) posted to our web log:

M/V She:Kon: The Marine Installers Rant & A few other things
Pretty good info there. Looks like another blog to start following.

A little common sense goes a long way. Too bad it's not more common
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Old 13-10-2013, 12:14   #709
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Looks like my second career in the Coast Guard has come to an end so it's back to the boat shed while the weather holds. Boy, did it feel good! I'd much rather do this than sit in front of a silly computer in an office building.



Web Log Updated! M/V She:Kon: Back to it!
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Old 17-10-2013, 09:54   #710
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Had to change things up a bit and drill a hole in my hull. No, not for kicks, for the rudder post.



This rudder came with the kit when we bought it. I don't know if it was actually made for this boat so I had to stick it up there and get some measurements. The rudder shaft will have to be modified a bit. Work I hope to get done this winter.

Web Log Updated: M/V She:Kon: Changing things up a bit
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Any updates? How did your bogging go?
Winter will soon be upon us Canucks, I hope you have heat in your shed.

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:58   #712
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Hi Paul.

No heat in the shed. Was just bringing stuff in for the winter and doing a blog entry. We're done here now till spring.

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No heat in the shed. Was just bringing stuff in for the winter and doing a blog entry. We're done here now till spring.

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Same here.. just eat the til' the weather warms up.
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You got lots done this year. Congrats, she's going to be a beauty.

We're able to extend our build season this year because we've built the window frames and can now close the boat for the winter. We'll heat it until Jan and start back in March. It'll be nice to build interior stuff.

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TeddyDiver, is there a thread somewhere I can read about your build? Is it your own design? What material are you using?

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Old 26-12-2013, 08:20   #716
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Just out to check on the boat shed. *Note: Some of you southerners might want to look away now!* :-)

Shed appears to be holding up pretty well with all the repairs we had to do this year. Noticed there's more snow clinging to the top than previous years.



Quick update on the web log: M/V She:Kon: Boxing Day Blues

Hope everyone is well and happy and enjoying a great holiday.

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Stumbling around Google Earth today and noticed they updated the pic for our area. You can now see the Big Blue Boat Building Shed from Space!

Web Lot Updated: M/V She:Kon: Google Earth & Boat Sheds
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Not long after I moved into my current house, I looked at Google Maps and saw the images were updated and it showed my boats boom sitting on the back deck. But where the boat was stored for a year and a half wasn't updated.
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When you say "this" what is the name and plans of that design. She is gorgeous.
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When you say "this" what is the name and plans of that design. She is gorgeous.
Our trawler project is called the TW28 and is from a Vero Beach Florida company called Bateau.com

The design is specific for amateur builders. Kits & material packages are available from the designer.

Boat plan details, Trawler 28 (TW28), Power Boats 26' to 35'

There are at least a dozen that have been built around the world so far. We modified the hull to make it 39 1/3" longer than designed.
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