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Old 14-11-2014, 06:39   #31
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Re: All this Wood! How do you maintain interior wood?

Our original finish is epoxy with coats of varnish. We decided to refinish the head so we stripped and sanded to bare wood. We used Minwax wipe-on poly which turned out really nice, but it doesn't have the hardness of the epoxy and varnish did. We have a hinged teak cover over the toilet, and now have to be very careful to not drop anything on it otherwise it leaves a dent in the wood.
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Old 15-11-2014, 08:52   #32
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On my last boat I cleaned the varnished wood every couple weeks with damp cloth. I would recoat cabin sole every year and rest of the teak every two years. It was a smaller boat. On the Compass I could see varnishing the sole every 2 years and a maintenance coat for the rest every 5 years. Exterior gets a coat every 3 months.
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Old 15-11-2014, 14:01   #33
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So true. I was actually reading about and considering the Briwax after seeing Island Moose's gorgeous interior but after thinking about it for awhile and considering that if I didn't like it as much as my varnished interior I would not be able to varnish it later I decided I better just stick with what I know I love. I think I will have to do my boat in stages because there is just too much of it for me to tackle in one fell swoop so I will likely start by just cleaning and oiling the whole thing with something like Liquid Gold just to put the life back into it in the meantime.
Becky, regardless of what you do in the interim, choose the worst area to do first, all other things being equal. That makes it look great, to begin with, and keeps you from dreading the hard bits. You might also consider hiring a high school kid to help with the pre-varnish sanding. A whole boat's worth is a huge job to contemplate doing alone. Given the excellent results some folks are reporting with oil, and if that is what is already on there, it might make sense to do the cleaning and oil with the Watkins or Tung oil, and see if you can live with it.

My own bad experiences with oil may have been due to the oil I used, or not using enough oil, or not cleaning it enough. But from the foregoing posts, I get the idea that good quality oil can be made to offer good results, maybe even as good as matte varnish, I would not expect the shine of high gloss.

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Becky, regardless of what you do in the interim, choose the worst area to do first, all other things being equal. That makes it look great, to begin with, and keeps you from dreading the hard bits. You might also consider hiring a high school kid to help with the pre-varnish sanding. A whole boat's worth is a huge job to contemplate doing alone. Given the excellent results some folks are reporting with oil, and if that is what is already on there, it might make sense to do the cleaning and oil with the Watkins or Tung oil, and see if you can live with it.

My own bad experiences with oil may have been due to the oil I used, or not using enough oil, or not cleaning it enough. But from the foregoing posts, I get the idea that good quality oil can be made to offer good results, maybe even as good as matte varnish, I would not expect the shine of high gloss.

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You are wise, Ann. But I honestly don't know if I would ever be completely satisfied with an oil finish. Although any wood that is clean and looks well cared for is going to be pretty, I really love the rich look of varnish. It's like being completely surrounded by fine furniture. Once it's done the care of it is as easy as wiping it down and keeping it clean. And I think it offers superior protection for the wood, but that's just my opinion.

I sure wouldn't mind a little help from that kid though. If you see him hanging around, send him over.
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Totally understood. I think we are all passionate when it comes to our boats. It's almost humorous sometimes (except that we're so deadly serious about it). You could probably get away easier with telling someone they have an ugly kid than you can telling them they have an ugly boat!!
Yes.

And after your "conversion" from varnish inside (which, personally, I detest), we need to stay away from religion, too.

15 years with teak oil, we like it.
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If you decide to varnish I recommend La Tonkinois varnish. It's easy to work with, looks great & best of all it's all natural. I recommend a really good quality brush but disposable foam brushes will work. Just be sure to tape well & put on the recommended number of coats which means a lot of coats.
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Re: All this Wood! How do you maintain interior wood?

I have a 1980's Cheoy Lee 44' and the interior has more teak than a rain forest, every single surface is teak finish. Cheoy Lee like almost all builders used a teak laminate attached to teak plywood to keep cost and weight down. Cheoy Lee specifically uses stain on all the raw laminate to achieve a uniform color throughout the boat. I am in the process of refinishing the entire interior and have run into a number of problems. First is the previous owner put high gloss varnish all over the place, and it looks like he put it on with a trowel. Second I have areas with water damage that need to be re- laminated and matched to the original color.
Removing the old varnish is a very delicate process as the surface laminate is unbelievably thin and any excess sanding burns through to the plywood underneath. My second big issue is finding a laminate and matching both the grain and color. I have read that most people in this thread have avoided varnish and can only guess that that is due to the huge amount of work involved. I have refinished all of the 30+ doors onboard with epiphanes rubbed effect and it took months to build a finish after stripping down to bare wood. That said the end result is georgeous and could never be duplicated by rubbing furniture polish or similar on the wood.
Four years into my total refit I have come to the conclusion that buying an older boat with this amount of teak detail everywhere requires an a super human amount of patience and time to get it right. If I was aware of the amount of work involved I would never have started this project, but now that I am more than half way through I am committed to finish if it kills me.
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I think painted wood in the interior can look great and even improve an otherwise dark interior. Classic wooden boats have a lot of painted wood. Instead of trying to match veneers think about paint. I wouldn't paint any solid teak but it would save a huge amount of time on the bulkheads.
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Re: All this Wood! How do you maintain interior wood?

The the good advice has been given already...

If you decide on Tung or Linseed oil remember that they are polyunsaturated fatty acids and will spontaneously combust so DO NOT leave your oily rags in the boat and always lay they flat (not bunched into a ball).

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