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Old 16-02-2013, 18:06   #136
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Re: 60 ft on the Chesapeake - It Begins !

I was looking at the pics and thinking the same thing. Minaret is right, you need more protection. A balaclava type face protector and a 5 dollar paper suit. (make sure to remove it when you go to the bank...)
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What? real men don't wear paper suits, We just suffer....and itch.
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This is how I spend most of my waking hours dressed. I've spent more time in a Tyvek and fullface in the last twenty years than out, I bet. I do the extra long Gerson non linting spray sock underneath, with knee high rubber Xtra Tuff boots. I tape my wrist cuffs to rubber gloves and my ankle cuffs to my rubber boots. I wear a Tyvek that's several sizes too large so it doesn't rip. I put on a layer of professional barrier cream every morning to prevent itch. Wear only 100% cotton clothes, synthetics collect glass dust and it will not wash out. Just some pointers from a guy who lives in the land of itch full time...
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Old 16-02-2013, 18:26   #139
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Minaret, you forgot to tell us what day you launch, and how many days you will be spending at the space station...
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Old 16-02-2013, 18:27   #140
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How does this longboarding thing work? I think I'm going to have to do that to get my decks flat as well. Do you think I should gel coat over the fiberglass I put down our just paint it? Uv protection? Any suggestions for a home made long board? Sometimes I really wish I knew what hell I was doing! Man I got parts that itch that I forgot I had ; )


You have much to learn. I will attempt to show you. This is what we call a "misery board" in the industry. These are nice commercially available standard sized hook and loop, 4 1/2" x 30" one man boards. I have run up to a six man board fairing very large hulls, but that is beyond your needs. You will understand the name the first time you use one overhead for a few hours. You need one rigid and one flexi.


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A standard long board. You will do most of your fairing with one of these. I prefer stikit to hook and loop.


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A standard long board in flexi. Flexi is for fairing compound surfaces. You need both flexi and rigid to fair well.


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An air file. There are cheaper models. This is an air powered long board. If you have a compressor that can push it you want one of these.



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For fairing a deck a "mud hog" is awesome. It's only good for fairly flat surfaces like a deck, not too much compound shape, because of the rigid disk back. This is also what makes it fair well on flats. It does random orbit. Awesome fairing tool.


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I'll refrain from posting further fairing arsenal, to prevent you from getting too much tool shock. Wish I could help you out with it...


Suffice it to say, you also need at least a short board, a hard block, a rubber block, and a foamy.
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Minaret, you forgot to tell us what day you launch, and how many days you will be spending at the space station...

LOL, you should see me in a forced air setup. This is the lightweight rig, bare minimum.
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Wow, thats lots of tools no wonder it took me so long to do the back deck. I just thought it was normal to spend forever trying to get it level and flat.
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You can bang it out quick and get great results with the right gear. You can make do with just a few of the basics, but on a big job good tools pay for themselves in time saved and quality results.

What's your plan for glassing up the decks? Core/no core? Considered a laminate schedule? Poly or epoxy? Gelcoat or paint?
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it's already got a core, foam, and I was just going to lay about 1/4 inch of glass back over what I ground off. Poly resin, I had put a layer of gel coat on the back and then painted because that seemed right. after doing it though, I was wondering why even gel coat if I'm going to paint non skid on it anyway. does the gelcoat add anything?
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it's already got a core, foam, and I was just going to lay about 1/4 inch of glass back over what I ground off. Poly resin, I had put a layer of gel coat on the back and then painted because that seemed right. after doing it though, I was wondering why even gel coat if I'm going to paint non skid on it anyway. does the gelcoat add anything?

Definitely. I use it with poly lay ups all the time, like a hi-build primer. Do the layup, grind for prep, then immediately roll on 3-4 coats of gel with surface seal in the last coat only. Let it cure and start sanding fair. As soon as you board it out a bit any lows will be obvious and can be filled and faired. This way you use a lot less bondo and get a better product. And it just saves time on a big surface over troweling on filler. And gel sands out pinhole free, ready to prime and paint or shoot a color coat of gel.
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