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Old 23-08-2012, 23:09   #31
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Re: 2-part polyurethane paints

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Not to mention the associated cancer.
And birth defects.

My last cat was called "Two Headed Love Child" because of the warnings on the cans.

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A respirator is a basic safety requirement. Many of these paints contain isocyanates.
Yep, there "was" quite a reputable painter here in Brisbane who blew many a boat back in the 80's and 90's.

Respirator was a cigarette filter
No coveralls and thongs on the feet.
No prizes for guessing what got him in the end.
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Old 24-08-2012, 11:05   #32
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The Isocyanates in two part Polyurethane paints are not filtered out by particulate masks.

It would be more accurate to say "The Isocyanates in LP are not COMPLETELY filtered out by a respirator". Believe me, you are getting much less exposure with a respirator on. Unless you truly mean a particulate mask, which is just a dust mask and not a respirator. But that would be crazy, since they don't filter out anything but dust, and that poorly...
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Re: 2-part Polyurethane Paints

Alright, so I should be checked for cancer shortly!

Here is the kind of information one will read after applying the paint on his deck with rollers, I opened the safety sheet for Perfection and here it is!

Select equipment to provide protection from the ingredients listed in Section 2 of this document. Ensure fresh air entry during application and drying. (We did )If you experience eye watering, headache or dizziness or if air monitoring demonstrates dust, vapor, or mist levels are above applicable limits, wear an appropriate, properly fitted respirator (NIOSH approved)during and after application. (Yes headaches after a whole day applying the paint) Follow respirator manufacturer's directions for respirator use. FOR USERS OF 3M RESPIRATORY PROTECTION ONLY: For information and assistance on 3M occupational health and safety products, call OH&ESD Technical Service toll free in U.S.A. 1−800−243−4630, in Canada call 1−800−267−4414. Please do not contact these numbers regarding other manufacturer's respiratory protection products. 3M does not endorse the accuracy of the information contained in this Material Safety Data Sheet.

This is kind of disturbing since their section 2 is so criptic that most yachties (like me) will not understand the risks associated with some of the ingredients in the Perfection. We were applying it in a very well ventilated shade where the smell of paint was minimal. Regardless, we were breathing these ingredients for one week almost every day!

If they sell poison, why don't they post it in big red letters on the label rather than hiding it on safety sheets only available on the internet!!!
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...Unless you truly mean a particulate mask, which is just a dust mask and not a respirator. But that would be crazy, since they don't filter out anything but dust, and that poorly...
Yeah, I watch the guys here in Guate build launchas and work on bigger boats...usually with zero safety gear....sure is going to be rough for them later in life. I've known people doing similar work who died of COPD...not a nice way to go...best to suit up and use the right gear for the job.
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This is the one application where silica is ok, because it's buried under gel. I think a sprayed Griptex and gelcoat deck is the ultimate non skid.
Thanks for the product info. I still have a few areas to re-do, so may give the Griptex a try.

And of course there's always the next boat....
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If they sell poison, why don't they post it in big red letters on the label rather than hiding it on safety sheets only available on the internet!!!
There is a system that I have see used here in Central America on agricultural products and pesticides that is pretty straight forward. The containers have a green, yellow, or red band on the label. The stuff with the red band on it has probably been banned in the USA for 20 years!
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As all have stated if gel can be restored do so 1200 wet sand com[pound and fleet wax does wonders.If not Allgrip can be rolled toan almost asgood as spray finish in Dark Blue,have seen it done.
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