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Old 30-04-2009, 05:43   #46
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Is this related to (or the cause of) the "Peter Principle"

Sorry for the drift.

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Iím somewhat reminded of Parkinson's Law of Triviality*, which is the idea that organisations give disproportionate time to insignificant items.

The Nuclear Reactor, Bike Shed, & Coffee:

The decision regarding the nuclear reactor is so complicated that most of the members cannot understand it. Only two do understand it, but one of them is not willing to explain his stand against the other, who is more aggressive. So the decision is made without much discussion.

A bicycle shed is something everyone can understand, and a long discussion takes place regarding the material to be used, and itís colour.

The coffee maker being the easiest to comprehend, the most heated discussion takes place regarding this.

* ď... The time spent on any item of the [meeting] agenda will be in inverse proportion to the sum involved. Thus a £10 million-project may be approved in two-and-one-half minutes, while an expenditure of £2,350 - a much easier sum to comprehend for a much smaller item, something easier to visualise - will be debated for an hour and a quarter, then deferred for decision to the next meeting pending the gathering of more information ...Ē ~ Cyril Northcote Parkinson
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Old 30-04-2009, 08:44   #47
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The Peter Principle refers to folks being advanced in administrative rank to their highest level of incompetency, so, yeah, there's a direct correlation - the participants involved in triviality might otherwise be performing some real, productive work. You don't suppose that is what has become of this thread, do you?
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There are several "important" other principles that are similar:

The time spent debating a purchase is inversely proportional to the cost: This goes back a couple of hundred years ago when British Parliament was debating the purchase of a new sterling tea set, and war funding.

An old coworker of mine named this one after me: "The Bill Streep Law of Briefcases": "One will attempt to put 125% of a briefcase's capacity into a briefcase, so just purchase a small one!"

It was observed that this works for purses, backpacks, tool boxes AND computer hard drives.

And my all time favorite: "O'Reilly's Law": "Murphy was an optimist!".

Now, back on topic: Was I the only one that observed that with a shower, in a pinch, one has another head.

I can't believe I said that. I really, really didn't say that. I would never, never do that.
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Bill,

"Now, back on topic: Was I the only one that observed that with a shower, in a pinch, one has another head. "

Thanks for the laugh. I always thought an above the waterline urinal would be great.
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When we built our house, I suggested that we put in a urinal. I thought it was a GREAT idea. She threatened to kill me!
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Bill,

My thinking was in a seaway, aim wouldn't have to be as good. Most water closets are small and low. Subs have some small SS ones. They aren't above the waterline however.

My wife wouldn't buy it at home either.
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Another consideration is being able to use the head on both tacks, underway. A single head is fine if it is aligned fore and aft, near the centerline. If you have two heads, they should be on opposite sides of the boat. Make sure that inlet works while heeled.

A forepeak head is almost unusable in large seas.

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Jack,

Very good point, about the forepeak and the placements of starboard and port heads, if one has the room for them.

Makes a good point for a multihull.

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Im a big fan of the urinal, i was building one into my catamaran,its right up there with the Spronk multi purpose orafice in practicality and a lot safer than pissing off the stern. As far as 2 heads go ive always thought that the american practice of putting the toilet in the bathroom in our houses rather ridiculous,it makes much more sense to me to have a toilet and washbasin in one small room along with a urinal and let the bathroom be the bathroom.Much of the need for more than one is because someone is spending time washing or putting on makeup when someone needs to take a dump,same goes for the heads on a boat.JMHO.
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As the saying goes "two heads are better than one". We have two, hers and ours.
Two are definetly better than one when guests are aboard and (only once so far) when one goes on strike. I'd vote for two.
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What is her's is her's and what is mine is her's.
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The Rule of the Admiralty - "The Admiral know a dumb idea when she hears one."

Jackdale -The Admiral Knows what is hers and what is yours. It's why you take out the trash. I'll bet you never knew why

We should start a thread of "The Admiral knows". It's pretty easy I'll ask and write them down. I'm betting all the lists match one for one.
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When we built our house, I suggested that we put in a urinal. I thought it was a GREAT idea. She threatened to kill me!
Yeah, I know what you mean, I wanted one in the garage, I had a drain to use, I had already tried for one on the back porch, no sale either way.
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Paul,

"I'm betting all the lists match one for one."

I'm betting you are right about the matching lists. Especially if the Admiral has held the rank for awhile.
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