Originally Posted by Vasco
My Volvo 2003 was brand spanking new and a pos. Just check the internet
for the horror stories. Once was enough, never again.
Yes, the 200X series engines are notoriously bad and you will find horror stories everywhere. These were a fairly short-lived model and even Volvo recognizes them as a bad design. However, this is not the case for the older and newer models MDXX and 20XX series.
Originally Posted by Vasco
If I were making a choice of two otherwise identical boats, the only difference being a Volvo or a Yanmar there's no question I'd take the Yanmar. Regardless of the differences in the price
of replacement parts, Yanmar is a better machine.
Maybe. If you want to hear horror stories, check the internet
for Yanmar saildrives. These things are breaking cone clutches yearly and corroding badly. And the maintenance
schedule is half of Volvo's for oil change
and 1/4 of Volvos for main boot change - which is a big deal since the boat needs to be hauled out for saildrive
maintenance and changing the main boot is a big project
. If you are considering two saildrive
boats, I would pick the Volvo unless it is the newest model of Yanmar saildrive, which was reportedly completely re-engineered to address the older issues.
Check the threads on this board for Yanmar problems. Granted, there may be more people with Yanmars here, but the board is full of overheating
, smoking Yanmar discussions. I don't think there is a lot of quantitative evidence to support a blanket statement about which is the better engine - particularly without qualifying which models are being compared.
Again, the Volvo 2030 is a PERKINS Perama
M30 engine sold to Volvo. Perkins also sold this engine to Massey Ferguson, McCormick, Terramite, Textron, Jacobsen, Cushman, Vermeer, Leech Lewis, JCB, Kobelco, Northern Lights
and Detroit Diesel–Allison. It is one of the most widely used engines in the world in turf equipment
, tractors, mini-excavators, brush choppers, compressors, welders, pumps, generators, etc. Even Caterpillar uses it in some of their smaller equipment
. (This is why it is very easy to get OEM oil
filters far cheaper than Volvo branded ones).
Dealer and parts support is very important when cruising, and should be part of any powering decision. I have never had wrong Volvo parts sent to me (at least that wasn't MY fault), but that would be dealer/supplier dependent and could certainly happen with any engine parts supplier. It would be a disservice to the good Volvo suppliers to paint
them all with such a broad brush.
We have Volvo engines, but I am not defending them - just trying to inject some objectivity to blanket statements, "common knowledge" and non-emperical judgements. We would have bought the boat if it had Yanmars or Westerbekes (although I didn't know about the widespread Yanmar saildrive issues then).