Westerbeke or Beta Marine

[S&S]

Based on sizing concerns (mostly) I've narrowed down our repower to a Westerbeke 64A or a Beta marine 75. Which would you pick and why?

[S&S]

Nothing?

[Paul Lefebvre]

Everything being equal, I would take the Beta marine engine because you are able to buy Kubota parts for it anywhere in the world.


Paul

[never monday]

the 64a was dropped from production

I dare you to go to a Kubota dealer to buy a heat exchanger for you "Kubota" marine engine.

[Sonrisa]

The thing that tipped the scales for us was that Beta will manufacture custom feet to fit your old engine bed. Saving us the fairly large task of rebuilding stringers etc.

[S&S]

Originally Posted by never monday

the 64a was dropped from production

I dare you to go to a Kubota dealer to buy a heat exchanger for you "Kubota" marine engine.

65A (The current one). is there really that much of a difference? Both Westerbeke and Beta would have to drop ship parts anyway.

I'm inquiring more about longevity and build quality.

[never monday]

Originally Posted by S&S

65A (The current one). is there really that much of a difference? Both Westerbeke and Beta would have to drop ship parts anyway.

I'm inquiring more about longevity and build quality.

the sub 100hp diesel engine market is the most competitive in the world. These engines are designed for industrial use in everything from Bobcat's to generators, to welding units.
You will not outlive a cared for marine diesel.

I haven't experienced a 65a yet. I do see it's 200# lighter than the competition.

using 1800 for a refrence point

the 65a has the following specs
HP ~56
TQ ~160
fuel burn ~ 1.8 gph

The BV3300
HP ~55
TQ ~180
fuel burn 1.58 gph

it's a crap shoot who to give your money too.

[s/v Thea]

I went with Kubota. My boat previously had Universal (Westerbeke/Kubota block), non-marine parts were like 1/2 the price from the Kubota tractor guy vs Westerbeke guy.

[r.furborough]

Not really a crap shoot, given the numbers you have quoted the Beta marine BV3300 with the better fuel burn and greater torque, in a marine situation, is a no brainer.

Kubota engines are reknown for the abuse and neglect given to them in the agricultural and construction industry. YET, when needed, they always meet the demands of the user in terms of reliability and service.

Originally Posted by never monday

the sub 100hp diesel engine market is the most competitive in the world. These engines are designed for industrial use in everything from Bobcat's to generators, to welding units.
You will not outlive a cared for marine diesel.

I haven't experienced a 65a yet. I do see it's 200# lighter than the competition.

using 1800 for a refrence point

the 65a has the following specs
HP ~56
TQ ~160
fuel burn ~ 1.8 gph

The BV3300
HP ~55
TQ ~180
fuel burn 1.58 gph

it's a crap shoot who to give your money too.

[never monday]

Originally Posted by r.furborough

Not really a crap shoot, given the numbers you have quoted the Beta marine BV3300 with the better fuel burn and greater torque, in a marine situation, is a no brainer.

if you can feel 1hp and 20# of torque difference in a 48' boat. your ass is more finely tuned than mine.

[never monday]

I'd skip both of the options you've presented and go with this

d2_75 - Diesel inboard : Volvo Penta

[NCboatrx]

Westerbeke only put the gross SAE horse power graph on their performance curve.
http://www.westerbeke.com/ProductBro...May%202009.pdf

Beta Marine put both the gross SAE and the DIN net HP on their graph. At 1800 the Beta 75 produces just over 60HP using the same SAE curve that Westerbeke use, not 55 as claimed by Pat.
http://www.betamarinenc.com/images/3...erformance.JPG

Both the W65A and the Beta 75 are naturally aspirated engines. The Volvo is a turbocharged engine.

Stanley

[GordMay]

Because the test conditions are so similar, it is safe to divide DIN horsepower by 1.0139 to arrive at SAE net.
This value is so close to equal, that for all but the most technical purposes, DIN and SAE net horsepowers are interchangeable.

[newt]

I had a interesting experience yesterday. My oil cooler from my Wester 107 went south. Took it with fear and trepidation to the Bellingham diesel experts. They have it custom manufactured locally and back to me in 3-4 days. Cost? about 150 USD.
Sure beats drop shipping...

[Island Mike]

We put in a Westerbeke 64A, it is actually the same engine as the 82, it maxs at 2600 RPM. It is not turbo charged, (one more thing to go wrong) it moves our 30,000 lb sailboat well in all contions. it has performed outstanding for us...