View Poll Results: What would you prefer for a repower?
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Westerbeke
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12.82% |
Beta Marine
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87.18% |
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28-01-2010, 09:26
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#1
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
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Westerbeke or Beta Marine
Based on sizing concerns (mostly) I've narrowed down our repower to a Westerbeke 64A or a Beta marine 75. Which would you pick and why?
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28-01-2010, 11:21
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
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Nothing?
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28-01-2010, 12:13
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ottawa ON
Boat: Pearson 424 Ketch
Posts: 93
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Everything being equal, I would take the Beta marine engine because you are able to buy Kubota parts for it anywhere in the world.
Paul
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28-01-2010, 12:18
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#4
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,901
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the 64a was dropped from production
I dare you to go to a Kubota dealer to buy a heat exchanger for you "Kubota" marine engine.
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28-01-2010, 12:27
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#5
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salt Spring Island BC
Boat: 1998 Orca (Ingrid) 38
Posts: 78
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The thing that tipped the scales for us was that Beta will manufacture custom feet to fit your old engine bed. Saving us the fairly large task of rebuilding stringers etc.
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28-01-2010, 14:35
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by never monday
the 64a was dropped from production
I dare you to go to a Kubota dealer to buy a heat exchanger for you "Kubota" marine engine.
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65A (The current one). is there really that much of a difference? Both Westerbeke and Beta would have to drop ship parts anyway.
I'm inquiring more about longevity and build quality.
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28-01-2010, 14:52
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,901
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S&S
65A (The current one). is there really that much of a difference? Both Westerbeke and Beta would have to drop ship parts anyway.
I'm inquiring more about longevity and build quality.
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the sub 100hp diesel engine market is the most competitive in the world. These engines are designed for industrial use in everything from Bobcat's to generators, to welding units.
You will not outlive a cared for marine diesel.
I haven't experienced a 65a yet. I do see it's 200# lighter than the competition.
using 1800 for a refrence point
the 65a has the following specs
HP ~56
TQ ~160
fuel burn ~ 1.8 gph
The BV3300
HP ~55
TQ ~180
fuel burn 1.58 gph
it's a crap shoot who to give your money too.
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28-01-2010, 15:55
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Boat: Stevens 47
Posts: 115
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I went with Kubota. My boat previously had Universal (Westerbeke/Kubota block), non-marine parts were like 1/2 the price from the Kubota tractor guy vs Westerbeke guy.
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28-01-2010, 15:58
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Norfolk, VA
Boat: Freedom 32 (Hoyt)
Posts: 223
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Not really a crap shoot, given the numbers you have quoted the Beta marine BV3300 with the better fuel burn and greater torque, in a marine situation, is a no brainer.
Kubota engines are reknown for the abuse and neglect given to them in the agricultural and construction industry. YET, when needed, they always meet the demands of the user in terms of reliability and service.
Quote:
Originally Posted by never monday
the sub 100hp diesel engine market is the most competitive in the world. These engines are designed for industrial use in everything from Bobcat's to generators, to welding units.
You will not outlive a cared for marine diesel.
I haven't experienced a 65a yet. I do see it's 200# lighter than the competition.
using 1800 for a refrence point
the 65a has the following specs
HP ~56
TQ ~160
fuel burn ~ 1.8 gph
The BV3300
HP ~55
TQ ~180
fuel burn 1.58 gph
it's a crap shoot who to give your money too.
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28-01-2010, 16:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,901
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r.furborough
Not really a crap shoot, given the numbers you have quoted the Beta marine BV3300 with the better fuel burn and greater torque, in a marine situation, is a no brainer.
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if you can feel 1hp and 20# of torque difference in a 48' boat. your ass is more finely tuned than mine.
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29-01-2010, 09:38
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#13
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,139
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Because the test conditions are so similar, it is safe to divide DIN horsepower by 1.0139 to arrive at SAE net.
This value is so close to equal, that for all but the most technical purposes, DIN and SAE net horsepowers are interchangeable.
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29-01-2010, 11:03
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#14
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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I had a interesting experience yesterday. My oil cooler from my Wester 107 went south. Took it with fear and trepidation to the Bellingham diesel experts. They have it custom manufactured locally and back to me in 3-4 days. Cost? about 150 USD.
Sure beats drop shipping...
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29-01-2010, 12:13
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: FL
Boat: Far East Mariner 40
Posts: 652
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We put in a Westerbeke 64A, it is actually the same engine as the 82, it maxs at 2600 RPM. It is not turbo charged, (one more thing to go wrong) it moves our 30,000 lb sailboat well in all contions. it has performed outstanding for us...
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