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Old 24-08-2016, 14:23   #1
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V-drive question

Just bought a boat with a brand new Westerbeke diesel with V-drive transmission. I heard "thru the vine" NOT to leave it spinning (neutral) when sailing. I am planning on a feathering prop, but not right away. Any thoughts or experiences with this? Thanks!
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Old 25-08-2016, 04:32   #2
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Re: V-drive question

Check directly with the V-drive manufacturer (Walter or whomever...) because it probably depends on model, potential speeds, etc.


If the boat has been sailing Lo! These Many Years with V-drive and no feathering prop... might be a non-issue... but you'll still likely be more comfortable relying on info direct from the Horse's Mouth (so to speak).


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Old 25-08-2016, 08:41   #3
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I agree with "check with the dealer" but as a side note, many Vdrives use a separate oil sump for the actual Vdrive portion of the unit. The transmission may take ATF, but the Vdrive portion probably takes motor oil or heavier trans oil. Check the levels of both in your new (to you) boat. Buy or download any information that you can find on the unit, and keep it available. Just my 2 cents worth. ____Grant.
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Whether V-drives turn or not, I think it doesn't matter. But they are usually mounted on greater angles than regular transmissions, so the dip stick indications, are in error, leading to underlubrication.
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Re: V-drive question

I have an older Walter V-drive...it is cooled by the incoming raw water to the engine...I also have a folding prop.

I do not think it would be a good idea to let my V-drive free wheel with a fixed prop without cooling...



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Read the operator's manual for your model and do what it says. Don't take some random guy's guess on the internet. Some drives overheat if left to spin. Some drives will damage the clutches if locked.

A V drive is not a sail drive. There is only one oil sump and the oil level will be measured correctly as long as the engine is installed per the manufacturer's instructions. The down angle of the V drive is already taken into account.
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Hello:

I have read the owners manual and it says nothing about what to do with the rive while sailing....and I fear calling in, as I find it hard to imagine tin this ay and age getting a firm strong answer from someone who really has the definitive answer. The folding prop is still a few weeks out...just don't wan to damage things....I all continue to leave it in neutral when sailing.
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What is the brand and model number of the V drive?
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Westerbeke....not sure of the model number....brand new last year
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Westerbeke....not sure of the model number....brand new last year
So far as I know Westerbeke does not make transmissions. The two most popular V drive transmissions used on Westerbeke engines are made by ZF or Walter. ZF transmissions used to be called Hurth. You should be able to find the ID plate on the transmission. It will usually show the model number along with the gear ratio in forward and reverse.
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I just looked at a Westerbeke with a vdrive and the transmission was a Paragon. The owner had told me it was a Velvet Drive, but the top plate was embossed with Paragon. The transmission and the add on vdrive had separate oil supplys. The trans took ATF and I think the vdrive took regular oil, but there were separate dip sticks. I think that the transmission should be more of a concern about free wheeling than the vdrive. Calling a rebuilder, rather than a dealer. I think you will get better answers there. Look for the second dip stick. best of luck. Grant.
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OOPs, I guess I repeated my self Grant.
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