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Old 17-12-2018, 15:49   #1
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Toyota Invests in Autonomous Boats

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Definately the way to go, you would not have to drive to the marina, go out in the sun and get sun burn, cure the hangover from excessive beer drinking, catch and clean fish etc. Just loaf and sit in front of the TV set at home whilst the boat has a day out at sea autonomously.
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Definately the way to go, you would not have to drive to the marina, go out in the sun and get sun burn, cure the hangover from excessive beer drinking, catch and clean fish etc. Just loaf and sit in front of the TV set at home whilst the boat has a day out at sea autonomously.
And how about the general reliability of small vessels at sea?

Looking at the boat in the pictures, who will make sure the RIB is properly inflated for temperature difference?

Who will clear off the spray on the cameras?

Who will change the fuel pump or reprime the fuel line?

Who will troubleshoot the outboard when it goes into limp home?

Who will free the fishing net from the props?

Who will watch out for the manatee, seals, dolphins or endangered right whale?
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Definately the way to go, you would not have to drive to the marina, go out in the sun and get sun burn, cure the hangover from excessive beer drinking, catch and clean fish etc. Just loaf and sit in front of the TV set at home whilst the boat has a day out at sea autonomously.
How is that different from having a 100’ sail yacht with a paid captain and crew? Or a 65’ sportfisherman........ This sounds exactly like what happens when a crewed yacht is relocated to another cruising ground while the owner stays ashore. What’s wrong with an autopilot that knows the rules of the road: that’s all autonomous means to a boat?
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And how about the general reliability of small vessels at sea?

Looking at the boat in the pictures, who will make sure the RIB is properly inflated for temperature difference?

Who will clear off the spray on the cameras?

Who will change the fuel pump or reprime the fuel line?

Who will troubleshoot the outboard when it goes into limp home?

Who will free the fishing net from the props?

Who will watch out for the manatee, seals, dolphins or endangered right whale?
The minimum wage deckhand will do most of that at the instruction of the AI. The thing about AI is that it will be as smart as you and just as capable of learning as well only at a genius level 24/7 365 a year. When machines as clever as you begin to design and make other machines, everything changes.......
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The minimum wage deckhand will do most of that at the instruction of the AI. The thing about AI is that it will be as smart as you and just as capable of learning as well only at a genius level 24/7 365 a year. When machines as clever as you begin to design and make other machines, everything changes.......
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The minimum wage deckhand will do most of that at the instruction of the AI. The thing about AI is that it will be as smart as you and just as capable of learning as well only at a genius level 24/7 365 a year. When machines as clever as you begin to design and make other machines, everything changes.......
So the minimum wage deckhand (engineer who makes $100k+ currently in the yachtung industry) will be willing to do this for such low pay?

Seems they need a human form robot to do these tasks. Unless the boat is designed quite differently in a way that the boat itself is the robot and has full self repair capability. I mean why is there a deck and windows in the pic. Don't need any of that. Engines can be in the middle of the boat. No worries about carbon monoxide. So maybe they can be made repairable by a repair or fault catching system on the boat.

In any case, current boats aren't up to the task, nor are they designed property as autonomous vehicles.

Lastly, I've been saying this for years, but all the productivity from machines doing everything needs to go into a stipend for all citizens. What it means to have a job surely will not be the same once there are far fewer jobs than people.

You could still strive for motr and open businesses and work jobs, but a basic living grant would be the right thing to do with this extra productivity.

Look at the $100K+ engineer you are replacing with a minimum wage deckhand for an example.
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