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Old 01-03-2017, 18:31   #1
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Repowering Opinions

Hello all and TIA

I am in the process of repowering my new to me Shannon 51' The old engine was a perkins 85hp. Unsure of transmission gear ratio right now. Boat displaces around 44k high freeboard and hard dodger.

I am trying to decide between the Volvo D3 110

And the Yanmar 4JH110

Does anyone have any experience or opinion on these? Quality or longevity? Volvo will produce more torque at lower rpm.

Prop is a 4 blade veriprop model: DF-112-4blade

Links to the engine specs if anyone has any thoughts:

https://pubs.volvopenta.com/publications//47708878

http://www.yanmarmarine.com/theme/ya...monRail-HR.pdf

Once again thanks in advance!!
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Old 01-03-2017, 19:04   #2
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Re: Repowering Opinions

FWIW I'd throw Beta Marine into your field of candidates, unless there's a reason why it would not fit your requirements.
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Old 01-03-2017, 19:47   #3
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I am not sure where you are located but if you are using USD to make this purchase, look at buying beta direct from the UK. The GBP is in the dumps right now and the prices of their engines are low if you have US dollars! We just repowered with a beta and I am very happy. Not to mention got the engine for about half of what I could get quotes for it in the states!

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If cruising worldwide then Volvo and Yanmar have the best overall support and parts supply. My pick would be the Yanmar but then I'm biased, I used to be a Volvo mechanic and have the displeasure of still having to maintain a couple of them
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I am not sure where you are located but if you are using USD to make this purchase, look at buying beta direct from the UK. The GBP is in the dumps right now and the prices of their engines are low if you have US dollars! We just repowered with a beta and I am very happy. Not to mention got the engine for about half of what I could get quotes for it in the states!

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Jon,

It sounds like you got a real good deal my getting your Beta from the UK. Since I am only allowed to get a quote from my local Beta dealer - can I assume that you did your repower outside the states? If not, can you share how you arranged to get your new engine from the UK? Also, costs for making it happen would be great to know.

Thank you very much,

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Jon, Paul, I re-powered with twin Beta (Iveco) 150s in 2013. Boat is in Vancouver BC, and I ordered direct from Beta UK. Shipping was a cinch. I arranged my own carrier, but they could have done it for me. Duty into Canada was 5%. Air freight cost about CA$4k.
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We did our repower in Panama, Shipping by cargo ship was included. Import duty for use of the port and shipping from the port to our marina with our agent came to a total cost of about $800. But all I had to do is receive the engine and it was quite easy. Again not sure where you are located but it may be well worth it sailing the boat outside the states if beta direct has a non competition thing going on with US based dealers. Like it may pay for the whole cruising year and then some depending on where you go.

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Has the Perkins given up? Where are you located? I might be interested in your dead or dying 4-236.
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Re: Repowering Opinions

Thanks all for the replies! I think Im determined to go with the Yanmar or Volvo due to parts mostly.

Rowglide-Im in RI. The thing started right up and ran really well. It's just that I'd rather do the repower now, with the resources I have available than far away.

NoTies-Is the Volvo a PITA to work on?

As far as I can see there is no real clear winner. They both have their pluses and minuses.

Volvo is heavier. With more power at lower rpm.

Volvo parst more expensive and harder to find.

Volvo has had the common rail for 10 yrs and engine production is more consistent "in house" than yanmar..Yanmar is new with the common rail...

Idk. No clear winner
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