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Old 17-07-2017, 07:30   #46
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Re: Preferred Brands, Diesel and Outboards

Now slow down. Nobody says Gardners are bad engines. Just our boats are, you know, not all that big!

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My friend's classic has two of them. I touch them with awe every time I enter that engine room. An engine room that is about twice the volume and size of my boat ...

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I think the smallest Gardner is 60hp.
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Re: Preferred Brands, Diesel and Outboards

Does anyone know who made an engine that had to shut down and a cam had to be manually change with a manual lever to go astern. Approx. a 90 tug? Guess would be 1000 to 1200 real HP.
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Does anyone know who made an engine that had to shut down and a cam had to be manually change with a manual lever to go astern. Approx. a 90 tug? Guess would be 1000 to 1200 real HP.


Washington ironworks diesel I think. However there are a lot of large Diesel engines in ships that do this same thing to operate astern.

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Washington ironworks diesel I think. However there are a lot of large Diesel engines in ships that do this same thing to operate astern.

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Thanks you may be correct. I was oiling summers while going to college. Thank God they didn't put me on that one. The Faulk air bag transmission was great where I was. All I had to do was maintain 311# of air pressure. The engine answered bell from the upper engine room with a joy stick I can't imagine answering bells making up a tow shutting down changing cams and re starting.
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Wottie, none of these young whipper-snappers have ever heard of Gardners. Besides, if Beneteau doesn't put them in as OEM, they must not be any good!

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Now slow down. Nobody says Gardners are bad engines. Just our boats are, you know, not all that big!

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My friend's classic has two of them. I touch them with awe every time I enter that engine room. An engine room that is about twice the volume and size of my boat ...

Cheers,
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Always wanted to have one Gardner in my life - it will be an unfilled dream I guess
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Re: Preferred Brands, Diesel and Outboards

Here is a boat with a Kelvin Diesel, I understand Mr Kelvin and Mr Gardner were mates back in the day.

This one is a Kelvin 8 cylinder diesel of approximately 375hp.

I heard the boat recently sold for $2,000. I might have afforded the purchase price but would not have been able keep her going or even the first start!

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My favorite boat with a rebuilt 85hp Gardner 5LW.

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Re: Preferred Brands, Diesel and Outboards

Gardner story (true):

Some years ago we met an Aussie couple in a timber motor sailor, a bit elderly but quite spiffy looking (the boat). Seems they had inherited the boat, and, since the chap was a marine tradesman, decided to do a big as-new refit. The boat, 40 feet OAL, had the smallest Gardner I've seen, 4 cyl, around 40 BHP. Looked a treat, all green enamel and polished brass fittings. Chatting about it, I asked what he had done for it in the refit. "Well, I called Gardner and asked what was necessary to return it to new condition" They asked "how many hours?". 12,000 plus was the answer,and their reply was "nothing!, Give it a polish and an oil change..."

I really like that kind of equipment!

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