Perkins 4107 Control Panel

[yeschef]

hello..my first post so please be gentle,i have a perkins 4107 in a choey lee 36 everything is now running smoothly in no small part to this forum...many thanks..my question...is it possible to fit a vetus mp34 electronic instrument panel to the 4107,I would also appreciate any comments on selecting and fitting instruments..once again thank you..

[shakey doug]

The original 4.107 came with a Generator, Capillary type L'O & Temp gauges and possibly fitted with a mech drive Tacho, all would have to be modified to suit the Vetus unit. The easy option would be to select the instruments you want then buy them as matched units could save $$ & Hair.

[yeschef]

thank you shakey..as i expected.. at the moment the tacho is the only instrument working so a little investigation seems to be in order..

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, yeschef.

[yeschef]

thank you Gordmay..nice to be aboard.."life is an ocean sail it"

[Oldhippiesailer]

Hello yes chef. I have a 37 foot endeavour ketch with the same engine and the same issues with the control panel. The wiring on this boat has been a nightmare and I've had to trace individual wires through bulkheads through the floor system through the overhead and back to find out that it's a blank wire time and time again. Purchased the boat at an unbelievable bargain given its general overall condition and the strength of the hull but have a lot of work ahead of me to do the renovations I'm anticipating before being able to seriously cruise. I have been considering the same move you're making to electronics but haven't found everything yet that would be needed. Also saving the engine for last and trying to take care of the head pressure water battery system lighting and leaking ports before tackling that as the last major project. Keep in touch if you'd like and we'll compare notes on the direction that we're headed. I assume you have all the manuals you need for the engine? They're readily available online. If you don't send me a PM and I'll forward you a link. Good luck!

[wunderluster]

I have just spent a few hundreds dollars and too much time trying to get all of my instruments working on a 1983 Perkins 4-108. I'm looking at ordering a new instrument panel with gauges, OEM wiring harness all the way to the sending units, and new sending units. The price at Transatlantic Diesel is $700 for the complete package.

Has anyone else gone this route?

[Sailing55]

Originally Posted by yeschef

hello..my first post so please be gentle,i have a perkins 4107 in a choey lee 36 everything is now running smoothly in no small part to this forum...many thanks..my question...is it possible to fit a vetus mp34 electronic instrument panel to the 4107,I would also appreciate any comments on selecting and fitting instruments..once again thank you..

The 4-107 is such a simple reliable engine...why complicate that? At least consider re doing the gauges as they were originally installed? Stewart Warner gauges from a auto supply work quite well and are available with capillary tubes. I use them and yes, the faces are waterproof...I tested them before installing them and that was 15 years ago...

[Xthewater]

After much research I bought a panel and sensors from acdcmarineinc.com . Didn't like the plastic panel the gauges were mounted in so fabbed one of aluminum adding a few extra features like red led idiot lights for LOP and HWT, blue LED gauge lights, USB and battery power sockets, starter relay and engine kill cable. Then I had the panel anodized at a local shop.

Their gauges, harness and sensors are very good, love the tach with built in engine hr gauge. Tach hooks to alternator sine wave (tach) output.

Their tech guy Mr.Ramsey, who also builds the panels is most helpful and knowledgeable. In addition to panel circuit information he also sent me schematics for battery power management circuits which were unique and by which I intend to reconfigure my existing scheme. It reduces the battery selector switch to one On/Off switch and makes perfect sense. Eliminates the chance of blowing the alternator by accident opening the circuit.

[wunderluster]

Originally Posted by Xthewater

After much research I bought a panel and sensors from acdcmarineinc.com . Didn't like the plastic panel the gauges were mounted in so fabbed one of aluminum adding a few extra features like red led idiot lights for LOP and HWT, blue LED gauge lights, USB and battery power sockets, starter relay and engine kill cable. Then I had the panel anodized at a local shop.

Their gauges, harness and sensors are very good, love the tach with built in engine hr gauge. Tach hooks to alternator sine wave (tach) output.

Their tech guy Mr.Ramsey, who also builds the panels is most helpful and knowledgeable. In addition to panel circuit information he also sent me schematics for battery power management circuits which were unique and by which I intend to reconfigure my existing scheme. It reduces the battery selector switch to one On/Off switch and makes perfect sense. Eliminates the chance of blowing the alternator by accident opening the circuit.

I called acdcmarine also. I like the OEM wiring harness from Tansatlantic better than the junction box acdcmarine uses. The price was almost the same. I'm glad that worked for you, I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Hopefully, the OP finds this information useful.

[yeschef]

i would like to thank everybody for your information...i have been a member since 2013.. unfortunately because of my dyslexia i n
have not had the courage to to post. i have been made aware that grammar is .. more important than content i will read and be informed from the background yeschef.

[Sailing55]

Originally Posted by yeschef

i would like to thank everybody for your information...i have been a member since 2013.. unfortunately because of my dyslexia i n
have not had the courage to to post. i have been made aware that grammar is .. more important than content i will read and be informed from the background yeschef.

Don't even go there.. you are as valid and meaningful as anyone on this forum. People that nitpick grammar are either bored or intellectually insecure.
I for one hope you will post anytime you wish...

[Xthewater]

Originally Posted by morven55

Don't even go there.. you are as valid and meaningful as anyone on this forum. People that nitpick grammar are either bored or intellectually insecure.
I for one hope you will post anytime you wish...

Ditto here as well.
There are some real first class idiot snipers who contribute nothing yet unfortunately have writing/grammar skills. Moderator catches most fortunately. Rather hear legitimate questions and answers than empty grammer. Remember too there are many on this forum from all over the world who's first language isn't english so grammer etc. isn't really a major worry. conveying information as best can is the goal.
Please keep involved!

[BigSmile]

Originally Posted by wunderluster

I have just spent a few hundreds dollars and too much time trying to get all of my instruments working on a 1983 Perkins 4-108. I'm looking at ordering a new instrument panel with gauges, OEM wiring harness all the way to the sending units, and new sending units. The price at Transatlantic Diesel is $700 for the complete package.

Has anyone else gone this route?

Haven't needed to go that route. However, in my experience, Transatlantic has always beat price compared to local Perkins distributor, and they will sell you exactly what you want/need, nothing more or less. Another route to try could be a price quote from Caterpillar for Perkins parts, but I doubt price will beat Transatlantic.

[Wulf]

Originally Posted by morven55

Don't even go there.. you are as valid and meaningful as anyone on this forum. People that nitpick grammar are either bored or intellectually insecure.
I for one hope you will post anytime you wish...

Well said.