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Old 12-12-2011, 20:38   #406
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Re: OMG ! Clawing Off a Lee Shore in a Gale !

I totally misjudged it as well.

Though I've scrolled through the long, long, if however well spaced and readable posts from the OP, for several pages now without reading more the two or three sentences of each.

Choosing instead to read others responses, with quotes, to try to get something out of the thread of value.

Much more efficient and less nonsense.
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@ Minarette:

How many of my Autism posts did you read?

Who do you think I was mocking?

(hint, it sure isn't the tens of thousands of American children misdiagnosed with the disorder because it's fashionable and qualifies them for a plethora social services and assistance of dubious value to the child)

Start with my first post on the subject, and work your way up to the stuff about midgets, then post your comments on my discussion forum on my blog. This is not the place to debate whether one of Hugh Hefner's hooker/models (Jenny McCarthy) single handedly cured autism.

True Autism is an exceedinly rare, tragic, severe condition with no cure. Parents who have such children should be appalled at how it's boundies have been expanded to include the fruits of simple bad parenting.

Read the LA Times series on the subject.
I didn't think you were mocking anyone, I just think you don't really know what you are talking about and were pretty dismissive and offhand about a serious matter which probably doesn't involve you. Autism will never be "fashionable" and those who call it so I find to generally have no close personal experience with it. Who are you to assign value to social services you have nothing to do with and have never seen? My kids go to an absolutely amazing program which is part of the UW, the Experimental Education Unit, one in the DATA program for kids with autism and one as a typically developing peer. My whole life revolves around this issue right now, and I do nothing but research and talk to proffesionals of the highest standing who are doing research, and believe me you have no idea what you are talking about. It's a complicated disability, with many aspects and degrees of effect. That's why it's called Autism Spectrum Disorder, theres an interlocking spectrum of effects here. What you call "true autism" is simply severe autism. People who are doing great things for children with disabilities are funded this way, and you should probably not have anything to say about it unless you are not OK with helping children with disabilities. Which is what is at the root of the many articles about this issue such as the LA times, right wing angst about spending money on social services. It must be socialism! I'm sure some of the other people on this forum who have children with disabilities and intend to cruise with them would love to read your blog, including one I know of who's kid you would probably call a "midget". Offensive. And thanks for telling me my kid doesn't have "true" autism, thats a relief, it's just because I'm a bad parent. What a loser...
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. Since your opinions were posted on your blog and not here, I won't bother to go in to more detail here, I was just wondering what made you think it was OK to hold forth on this subject in that manner. I did not think it was "funny as hell".
In 11 pages most posts carried some good and not so good sailing stuff.

At least most of the time we were talking about gales, lee shores, sinking boats motorcycles, hookers and old blind guys...

I have friends with autistic kids so I am not unsympathetic. But like you said, it's on his blog not here and you sorta brought it here.

Can we let this one go?
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In 11 pages most posts carried some good and not so good sailing stuff.

At least most of the time we were talking about gales, lee shores, sinking boats motorcycles, hookers and old blind guys...

I have friends with autistic kids so I am not unsympathetic. But like you said, it's on his blog not here and you sorta brought it here.

Can we let this one go?
Sure can, but it's not like he didn't mention it here first, post a link to it, and then respond in totally innappropriate fashion. Jerks like this infuriate me. Joking about sex tourism and exploiting "young" 3rd world prostitutes is bad enough, but when he starts bad mouthing children with disabilities I have to say something. People should know what sort of person they're talking too. Rant over, I'm done.
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Re: OMG ! Clawing Off a Lee Shore in a Gale !

Almost as bad he mis attributes Shakespere to Che Guevera.
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Was all that before or after you inherited the $500,000 from your grandmother?
Before.

I've made my own way through life, with only grudging financial support from my mother, and none but court ordered child support from my father.

I worked my way first through community college, then through (state) college after dropping out of highschool, borrowed the maximum allowed at the time from the federal government, then was accepted into and graduated with honors from a "5 year" undergraduate architecture program run by sadists that only accepted one 1 out of 8 applicants, and then proceeded to fail 90% of those they did accept over those 5 years.

1/2 of my potential graduating class was failed after presenting thier thesis to the faculty jury.

Because, "hey, if you dont like it, there are 8 guys lined up for your spot - go ahead, throw in the towel"

I started with 160 others in 1986 and graduated in 1992 with just 15 of them, several of whom went on to graduate school at Harvard, Columbia, Yale, and UCLA.

I then went to work for a series of greedy lowlife Architects (Bad economies reward such scum with ongoing work for some reason) completed my internship requirements, then spent the next 7 years studying for and ultimately passing the California Architecture Board exams in 1999, but not before paying off all my credit card debt and student loans on a salary that averaged less than $15.00 per hour over 7 years.

My first job after 8 years of higher education paid $12.50 per hour. Without health insurance, vacations, sick pay, retirement, social security contributions, or overtime compensation from my employer.

I was classified as "salary" and had to document a minimum of 6000 hours of "internship" with such lowlifes to qualify for my final license exam.

The whole time I was paying off my loans and studying finance, determined to escape the trap. And after I mailed that last $1500 payment to the good people at Visa, I started carefully investing that extra $1500 per month I had in mutual funds.

And I parleyed those investments into a down-payment on a 560 square foot Santa Monica condominium that everyone assured me in 2000 was horribly over-priced. I contributed the maximum allowable to things like employer 401k plans and IRAs, and while my co-workers bought new cars and enormous, ugly tract homes they couldnt afford, I drove the same beat-up 1983 Nissan pickup truck I'd purchased used for $3500 in 1987, replacing the transmission once, and installing a new head-gasket in the driveway of my appartment building when that blew.

I sold the Honda Civic I replaced it with in 2009 after buying the motorcycle I now commute on.

And I sold the crackerbox condominium I'd paid $180k for in 2000 for $375k in October, thus freeing me forever from wage slavery.

So, yea, I inherited that 1/2 million, but only after fighting harder than a greedy old freeloading blind land-lubber wild-cat fights the USCG in civil court making my own fortune.

....And I dont get a nickel of that 1/2 million, or the principal of another much larger trust fund until mother nature finally dispatches the father that abandoned me when I was teenager, along with his sister who tried to screw me out of my inheretence when my sweet grandmother passed away.

There is absolutely no gaurantee I'll ever get any of it - first, I have to outlive my paternal next of kin.

I'd start an educational scientific foundation dedicated to debunking the junk science and quackery of celebrity nincompoops like Jenny McCarthy and Oprah with the proceeds, but frankly, I've come to believe that science and reason are no match for a nice set of t*ts when it comes to popular opinion:

"A study found 24% of parents placed "some trust" in information on vaccine safety from celebrities like Jenny McCarthy.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_McCarthy

So I'll probably just spend that money in 3rd world whorehouses where it will have more of a positive social impact.

But not before having those adorable little whores sign a contract stating they promise never to write an promote a best selling book on Oprah about how they cured autism with a combination of laetril, celation therapy, bare assed spanking, circumcision, DMSO, faith-healing, and snake handling revivals.

Well, at least not until after they earn a PHD or better in Molecular Biology and publish the effecacy of thier treatment protocol via randomised double blind studies published in a peer reviewed scientific journal like "Nature".

I might even pay thier way through college if thier bare assed spanking grant proposal is convincing enough.

And since I have a college education, I'm at least as qualified as Jenny McCarthy to mouth off about Autism. Having a child with the disorder doesnt make you an expert anymore than having cancer makes you an oncologist.

To think it does is misguided and dangerous.

Your child is different, So what?

Love and accept your children as they are - dont try to force them into some model of normalicy. No one tries to "fix" children with Downs Syndrome.

Love, compassion, and acceptance.

If you read carefully you might find out what my blog is really about.

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Re: OMG ! Clawing Off a Lee Shore in a Gale !

This is better, this is why I read this thread but I was worried there for a while as we seemed to get bogged down on plain boring facts.

Keep 'em coming pleez Mr H.
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Didn't Linda get most of the 1/2 mil in the divorce?
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Joking about sex tourism and exploiting "young" 3rd world prostitutes is bad enough,
Not sure what experiance you personally have of all that but plenty of grey in that game - appearances (and Media reporting) are often deceptive. (and both sides often self-delude, intentionally and not ).

FWIW I have some empathy of what you are going through with your kid, me (late) Brother had his problems - originally he was "Mentally Handicapped" which later became "Learning Difficulties" (via a few other terms, most of which I forget )........Me Father fought all his life to make sure Gungha Din got the best opportunities (from himself and the State) and that he didn't get too much of the sh#tty end of the stick - not always successfully , despite the best of intentions.......wasn't an easy road for either (and in the late 60's rare for a single fella to either want to or be allowed to have sole custody of kids (me included ) - especially not when it required a process ending in the local equivalent of the High Court)......I had the easy bit, as for me Gungha Din was "normal" - simply because I grew up with him, but I take my hat off to father (and to anyone else) who doesn't simply pass the "problem" onto the State........

And Gungha Din was class A boat crew and the boat side of his life was probably the main thing that worked well for him and father.
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?........., Achieving even deeper discounts at whorehouses,......
And to think I thought this whole thread a waste of time, I missed that post obviously , what number , what's the idea . Sheesh I always miss the good stuff

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Almost as bad he mis attributes Shakespere to Che Guevera.
Shakespeare said that?

I didn't know he was a communist!

I always figured The Bard to be a Social Democrat with a populist, anti-monarchy bent.

Things never end well for royalty in his plays- Just Look at Hamlet, King Lear, and McBeth.

It makes sense though: Modern Corporate Capitalism certainly is viewed with a Gimlet eye by most modern playwrites.

Anyway -

This thread has been far reaching, and to sum up:

Jenny McCarthy, Oprah, and thier junk science profiteering from anti-vaccine quackery is the Autism world's equivalet of the sailing world's myth about clawing off a lee shore in gale with a diesel engine.

Oh well - I suppose our myth is less harmful, especially to innocent children.

Ever wonder why the focus of public sympathy is always for the parent of the disabled child, rather than the child itself?

Ever wonder why a parent with a develpmentally challenged child would parade thier kid like a circus freak on a talk show financed by feminine hygine products, diapers, and anti-ass-itch ointments?

Ever wonder why Los Angeles is the media capital of the world, the wanna-be celebrity capital of the world, and the autism capital too?

Ever seen a grown man naked?

This is another reason I'm leaving LA.
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Shakespeare said that?

I didn't know he was a communist!

I always figured The Bard to be a Social Democrat with a populist, anti-monarchy bent.

Things never end well for royalty in his plays- Just Look at Hamlet, King Lear, and McBeth.

It makes ".........

Much verbal junk later ."..........

anti-ass-itch ointments?

Ever wonder why Los Angeles is the media capital of the world, the wanna-be celebrity capital of the world, and the autism capital too?

Ever seen a grown man naked?

This is another reason I'm leaving LA.
Hogan give us a break and F off will yea.

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Methinks the Hogan doth protest too much.
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Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive
the mask :Embayment
But a blog -you see?

attributed to Sir Walter Scott,but not.

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Hogan give us a break and F off will yea.

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Know any midgets I F off with Dave?

'Cause I'm always looking for open minded midgets willing to dress up like clowns. I take them as lovers and....well, you'll have to read my blog to find out what I like to do to them.

Ever heard of "Harold Pinter"?

"Authur Miller"?

"Samuel Beckett"?

"Franz Kafka"?

Communists, one and all - just like Shakespear, except Shakespear never won a Nobel prize.
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