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Old 23-03-2018, 07:16   #1
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No diesel filter?

My father has got a 30yo 35ft Dutch steel cruiser (powerboat) with a 50hp Peugeot diesel that is usually on a Swiss lake.

The boat was Holland for some major maintenance two years ago. While servicing the engine, the Dutch found out that the engine was about to die very soon because of broken cylinder heads. So the engine was replaced by a reconditioned engine of the same type.

So far, so good. Today, while we got the boat ready for the season, we wanted to drain the Diesel tanks for the first time since new engine is in. There is quite an amount of debris in the tanks apart of some little water. But I assume this is within tolerance as the tanks have not been drained for years. However, what confused us a bit more was that we couldn't find a diesel filter anywhere between the tanks and the engine. The fuel feeder line is new. Looks like the Dutch have replaced it together with the engine but did not add a filter.

My father cannot recall if there was a filter on the old engine but to me, installing a new engine without fuel filter sounds totally inappropriate or am I wrong? Could tank debris even be a reason for worn out cylinder heads in case the old engine did not have a filter, neither?

Thank you for your opinions,
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Old 23-03-2018, 08:57   #2
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Re: No diesel filter?

It’s insane to not have a water separating fuel filter on a Diesel engine.

Water and debris can wreak havoc on the high pressure fuel system.
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Re: No diesel filter?

A fuel filter is essential and mandatory, preferably 2, a primary and a secondary.

Are you sure there isn't at least a secondary? They are usually supplied by the manufacturer and mounted on the engine itself.

In the picture below the secondary filter is black, under the silver-gray housing with the valve and the clear yellow hose connected to it . The oil filter is white, forward of the secondary filter.

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Re: No diesel filter?

The issue with diesels is the injector tip. It has very small holes that can become plugged with debris. Plus circulating debris thru your pumps wear away valve seats and tight fitting parts.
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Re: No diesel filter?

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My father has got a 30yo 35ft Dutch steel cruiser (powerboat) with a 50hp Peugeot diesel that is usually on a Swiss lake.

The boat was Holland for some major maintenance two years ago. While servicing the engine, the Dutch found out that the engine was about to die very soon because of broken cylinder heads. So the engine was replaced by a reconditioned engine of the same type.

So far, so good. Today, while we got the boat ready for the season, we wanted to drain the Diesel tanks for the first time since new engine is in. There is quite an amount of debris in the tanks apart of some little water. But I assume this is within tolerance as the tanks have not been drained for years. However, what confused us a bit more was that we couldn't find a diesel filter anywhere between the tanks and the engine. The fuel feeder line is new. Looks like the Dutch have replaced it together with the engine but did not add a filter.

My father cannot recall if there was a filter on the old engine but to me, installing a new engine without fuel filter sounds totally inappropriate or am I wrong? Could tank debris even be a reason for worn out cylinder heads in case the old engine did not have a filter, neither?

Thank you for your opinions,
Florian
Lack of a filter would not greatly contribute to a worn out cylinder head but will wreck the high pressure injector pump and injectors.

As others have posted, it would be highly unusual for the engine not to have an engine mounted filter normally fitted between the fuel lift pump and the high pressure injector pump.

And having another filter between the tank and the engine is normal practice.

It can't hurt to fit one yourself.
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Alright, thanks so much for your answer. Will see that there will be a filter, soon!
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Re: No diesel filter?

My power boat has water separator, a filter then it goes thru a screen at the lift pump. If an injector gets clogged and that cyclinder is not getting the right spray pattern or not enough/no fuel it could cause damage. That cylinder could wash out I think?

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Lack of a filter would not greatly contribute to a worn out cylinder head but will wreck the high pressure injector pump and injectors.

As others have posted, it would be highly unusual for the engine not to have an engine mounted filter normally fitted between the fuel lift pump and the high pressure injector pump.

And having another filter between the tank and the engine is normal practice.

It can't hurt to fit one yourself.


Yep, large one with a water trap between tank and engine and smaller one on the engine between the lift pump and the injector pump to catch anything which gets by the large one.
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