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Old 29-09-2015, 20:12   #16
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

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Exactly, and this is why you don't want to put the 14V directly to the coil, she will run fine until the coil burns out. Jumper the wires at the back of the switch and your using the system as designed, run a hot wire directly to the coil and you may burn it out, not all coils require external resistors as I recall though, no idea about Volvo.
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Old 29-09-2015, 20:23   #17
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

Lots of good advice.

I particularly like the (fun) suggestion of hitching to a fast moving cigarette boat and tow starting it.....

Also from another, "find a stretch of water with a slope, start pushing, and when you get it up to speed then...."

But back to the good help. Thanks for the advice on how to start from the wires at the back of the switch, made good sense.

Also from another to buy a new switch with keys and wire it in. Will do.

Will also ensure the blower switch (we believe that's the push/pull knob,) turns on the bilge blower before we start.

Thanks to all. I'll be back for more advice.... I could fill a book with what I don't know.

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Old 29-09-2015, 22:37   #18
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

My concern is that somebody sold you a gasoline powered boat without a key yet claims the engine runs I would be very very cautious when trying to start that engine Not only do you need to be safe make sure there no fuel leeks and run the bilge blower for an extended extended time but also check the engine oil make sure it's there turn the engine over by hand to make sure that there are no mechanical clearance issues.

I don't know how you ended up making the purchase without a demonstration of the engine running I would never purchase a boat or any vehicle with an engine that I did not see it runs especially if it claims to be running. Since you don't have the mechanical experience and background you may be better off hiring a mechanic to come start it for the first time and do an inspection unless you can get a hold of the original owner or people that sold it to you to have them show you how it starts.

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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Richard.
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

I have an ethical issue instructing a stranger how to start a vehicle by-passing the key.

Suffice to say, if you have access to the back of the key switch you should be able to identify the three terminals and figure out what is what.

But of course the internet being the internet, try google. Or this you tube
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I have an ethical issue instructing a stranger how to start a vehicle by-passing the key.

Good point, especially for the new guy with 2 posts. What was his first post, "how to hitch up a boat trailer"?
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Get a Cigarette type boat to type you at 15 knots. Drop transmission into gear and she should fire right up.
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

remove the engine and fit a marine one, should run fine. Gas engines are for outboards and should not be fitted below decks due to explosive fuel.
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

You ever been in a sailboat towed at 10 much less 15 knots??? Go back to your old chevy.


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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

Mark the wires on the ignition so that you can reinstall correctly. Remove the ignition switch take it to a lock shop and for $10.00/$20.00 They will make new keys. Much better than SPARKS in a gasoline environment.
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I have an ethical issue instructing a stranger how to start a vehicle by-passing the key.

Suffice to say, if you have access to the back of the key switch you should be able to identify the three terminals and figure out what is what.

But of course the internet being the internet, try google. Or this you tube
Very cool video.
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We just bought a 1975 Cal 2-27 that came without a key to start the engine. The engine, a gasoline Volvo Penta MB10A, is supposed to work fine.

We have have changed the oil, points, plugs etc but not sure how to start it without a key. We can get to the ignition from the back.

Any advice on how to start it would be appreciated, thanks.
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

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Mark the wires on the ignition so that you can reinstall correctly. Remove the ignition switch take it to a lock shop and for $10.00/$20.00 They will make new keys. Much better than SPARKS in a gasoline environment.
Or carry it to the closest auto parts store and see if they still carry old car ignition switches. You may have to go to a marine supply store and pay twice as much. A kid from the Hood might work but it is probably to simple as boosting a car today is more complex.
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Re: How do you hot-start a sailboat engine

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We just bought a 1975 Cal 2-27 that came without a key to start the engine. The engine, a gasoline Volvo Penta MB10A, is supposed to work fine.
We have have changed the oil, points, plugs etc but not sure how to start it without a key. We can get to the ignition from the back.
Any advice on how to start it would be appreciated, thanks.
Are you not able to just ask the previous owner how they started the motor? I bet there's an easier way than hot wiring every time. My engine has no key either; just a switch and a button quite away apart from each other. I turn the switch and push the button. But I figure it makes starting the motor (ie stealing the boat) just a little more difficult.
It was quite common for small engine suppliers to offer their motors without the wiring loom as a cheaper option. And as a result installing the motor would include making up a starting system, wiring gauges and warning lights etc.
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