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23-03-2015, 17:30
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Location: QLD Australia
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
Hi,
Installer error for sure.
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23-03-2015, 18:03
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#17
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
I've got a Mitsubishi engine in my boat with a similar configuration. I changed the coolant last week and that involved removing the hose so at the same time I replaced the fan belt and also measured up for a planned serpentine belt conversion in order to fit a larger alternator. The first thing I noticed was that there isn't a great deal of clearance between belt and hose and not only would it not take much to cause both to come in contact but it is not something you'd be likely to notice unless specifically inspecting for that problem.
This appears to be an installation or user problem as the only two possible causes would be either a bent bracket or the bracket attachment bolts have come loose. The fact that you continued to use the engine after becoming aware of the problem is not going to help your cause. Think yourself lucky that it wasn't the oil pressure alarm, otherwise you'd be looking at far more damage. Moral to the story is have a plan B for engine failure at all times in all situations. Throw up a sail or drop the anchor. Currents won't, as a general rule, drive you ashore. If the engine had stopped dead you would have needed an alternative plan anyway.
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23-03-2015, 18:11
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
Reef--good post.
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23-03-2015, 18:19
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Nova
Reef--good post.
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Cheers, and not to dis on the OP - I think he's learnt a not too expensive lesson - but he really should have followed the advice in his own sig line on this one.
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24-03-2015, 19:32
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
I keep my boat in Ft Myers Beach and I am curious as to who did the installation.
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24-03-2015, 19:59
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
I had a similar failure on a 4JH with about 800 hours on it.
I didn't do the initial install so I can't speak to that.
To my eye it looked like a factory installed hose. I can't see why an installer would have touched it. No brackets involved. Not the kind of thing you would likely see unless you were looking for it. I forget what made me find it, but I think I found it at the dock. Water leak in the bilge?
When I found the problem, IIRC - been a few years, I sleeved the cut and put hose clamps on. I may have also shaved down the hose end to make it fit tighter, providing some room.
When I got the replacement hose, a special formed hose, I made sure it fit properly.
As a matter of fact I checked the clearance over the weekend, just to be sure it still fit. Damn poor design, too tight.
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24-03-2015, 21:20
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
"Heavy traffic" and "current" in the CC area? Where were you? The only place I can think of is the Port A jetties. Your momentum should easily take you to one side of the channel or the other. In any case, a prudent sailor would have had sails ready to go up. Intentionally running an overheating engine, if I'd installed the engine, would have me saying "ain't my fault - that's why there's an alarm".
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24-03-2015, 21:49
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
The guy asks a simple question and wants to hear from people with actual experience dealing with his problem. I and others give him specific answers based on our experience with Yanmar warranties.
And then, as these threads always seem to - other people have to start in with irrelevant and condescending remarks about mistakes he made or didn't make and what they, in their superior armchairs, would have done differently.
Why can't we just stick to the questions asked by the OP in these kinds of threads?
It seems to me that if the engine did run OK for 22 hours prior to the problem then the problem was not as simple and obvious as some here suggest.
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24-03-2015, 22:59
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
Quote:
Originally Posted by TacomaSailor
The guy asks a simple question and wants to hear from people with actual experience dealing with his problem...
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You don't always get what you want.
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1st rule of yachting: When a collision is unavoidable, aim for something cheap.
"whatever spare parts you bring, you'll never need"--goboatingnow
"Id rather drown than have computers take over my life."--d design
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25-03-2015, 01:54
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Location: QLD Australia
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
But, if your a good person you always get what you need.
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30-03-2015, 14:14
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
Any update
Sent from my SM-N910V using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
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30-03-2015, 14:33
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Re: Help! About to make a Yanmar Warranty claim on a brand new engine
While not directly related to your problem, my experience trying to get a Yanmar service center in Chaguaramas, Trinidad to respect a Yanmar bulletin was a nightmare. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...tin-88344.html
Some components like hoses and belts are not warrantied. You didn't mention how long you'd had the engine and if you'd performed any maintenance yourself. Oil change? Anything that required removing the engine front protective cover, provided mainly to prevent injury from moving parts?
I am intimately familiar with the hose and bracket you speak of. The hose must be pushed back away from the bracket to allow changing the v-belt...
Good luck...
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