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Old 23-10-2015, 20:47   #16
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Re: Gasoline as a Diesel Stablizer

Thinwater, with that chemical engineering background you must know everything. Send me your calculations.

Besides, we certainly don't want "you" to get "pretty tired".

You don't even have enough information to make the call on the fuel:air mixture nor my education. So who is presuming here?
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I'm surprised at 5% pre-ignition isn't a problem. I don't believe it is doing the engine any favors.
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I know for a fact you can run a diesel engine on much high v% gasoline...but it really isn't the point of the post.
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Re: Gasoline as a Diesel Stablizer

Guys, I'm not an expert but did spend 30+ yrs in USCG (aka Uncle Sams Confused Group) - along the way I was a Marine Casualty Investigator, Oil and HAZMAT pollution Investigator.

What I do know is the Gas and Diesel have been around a very long time and if gas was accepted as a stabilizer for diesel, the mixture ratios would be in every handbook out there.

AND I know that outside of a Lab, the LEL and UEL of a random mixture of flammable products is a crap shoot - and I've seen flash points of gas as low as -14 deg F. but as a trick, I have seen a match put out in a puddle of gas

The diesel propulsion industry is pretty mature by now and if BioBor (or similar) is recommended (and Gas is generally not) it just might be for a reason other than profit.

Lastly, as a casualty investigator, I learned over the years that very small mistakes can make very big (and costly) casualties.
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I know for a fact you can run a diesel engine on much high v% gasoline...but it really isn't the point of the post.

An explosion could be considered a blow hard, I reckon.


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I know for a fact you can run a diesel engine on much high v% gasoline...but it really isn't the point of the post.
Maybe not? What's the point of keeping the microbes out if you a wrecking the engine. I'm sure you can run on a higher % but a connecting rod can also come through the block.
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I heard that nitroglycerine is also a very good diesel cleaner.
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I heard that nitroglycerine is also a very good diesel cleaner.
Also helps in dis-assembly
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Also helps in dis-assembly

Just make sure you stirr it instead of shaking
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Is gin or vodka you use in diesel?
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They dropped the m now its just sds
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Re: Gasoline as a Diesel Stablizer

I fry my fish in a little butter.
Sometimes I even add garlic.

% wise, I never calculated.
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Re: Gasoline as a Diesel Stablizer

I find this thread scary. Folks get away with bad practices, not understanding the risk they ran or minor damage they did, and then suggest others take the same path. Scary.


Thank you for posting. Always considered adding gasoline to diesel as bad practice; many technical articles say so including Calder's if I remember right.
Was beginning to think perhaps I could get away with it; you dispelled that notion.
Besides, is it worth risking very expensive machinery to save a few dollars?
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