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Old 16-03-2010, 12:17   #31
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Here is my recently installed Perkins 200 series and you can see the return line is on top (in light blue) and the main feed lines under those on the side...Its easy to tell as they will be interconnected or not interconnected distinguishing the two as well as lines radiating from the pump distinguishing them as well.

Loosen all of them at once right from the get go and retighten each individualy as they run free of air when cranking and pumping...It matters not which order that comes in...
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Ok, I bled the injectors until fuel was spurting out and then tried to start it. Same thing happened. Glow plugs maybe?
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Your sea cock is a valve on a through hull penetration and is the raw water feed inlet that cools your engine..
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Do you know this engine...was it running fine when you stored the boat?

You did retighten the injector nuts one at a time corect?
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It's not my boat and this is my first time working on the engine. The owner said that the engine ran fine the last time he started it which was over a year ago. It's been sitting since then.
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Sorry have to run pick up a kid from school...be back in an hour or less.

Try bleeding it again but CLOSE THAT SEACOCK FIRST!

It has taken me over an hour on different engines to work it all out before..repeating the prociedure several times...I use ether as an aid as well but am hesitant to advise you on that due to your inexperience...
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Closed the seacock and turned it over to see what would happen and it started right up. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it a lot. Now I have to learn how to motor a sailboat post haste.
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Out of curiosity what should the water temp be for a diesel like this when it's warmed up? It's been idling and has risen steadily to 230 F, seems like a reasonable temp to me but that's about as high as the temp gauge goes.
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The temp on my 4107 runs at 180. Open that sea cock!!!!
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There is also now a significant amount of water in the bilge that was not there before. There is a nice little flow of water coming off the driveshaft coming out of the back of the engine. I'm not sure where it's coming from but it can't be a good thing.
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If it is the packing gland you should be able to tighten it up. Also running sometimes will help reduce flow.
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OH Man!!.......Yes you were to open it back up as soon as it fired!...230 isn't to bad but I hope it didn't get hotter than that..You can crack a head!!

Some of the previous posts talked about all this...

Is the exhaust gasses clear or is there any steam coming out?
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I opened the seacock as soon as the engine started so that is not the problem. The exhaust is clear, no smoke. There is a little steam coming directly off the engine but it also has a little diesel fuel on it and it's quite hot. The engine was at idle the entire time and sounded fine.
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OH Good that's a relief..I was feeling very bad and partly responsible on this end for not repeating that..

OK this is too hot...Do you have a good flow of water out the exhaust?
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There is a good bit of water coming out of the exhaust. I didn't want to feel for the temp of the water so I don't know if it's hot or cold. I'm going to check the coolant as soon as the engine cools off a bit.
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