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Old 01-03-2007, 00:01   #16
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I love ether...

My engine just won't start without ether.

A one second spray onto the intake filter and brrrrm.

I know I should spend $12,000 ++++ on proper engine reconditioning but three cans of ether came with the boat...
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:35   #17
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The Gasoline rag thing was told to me by to different "old Timers" one a top notch diesel mechanic who taught me everything I know about diesels so I trust it, but do think I will try it.

The WD40 I have used by spraying it directly into the intake on my 6-354 and it worked fine....even provides a little lubrication....#8-)
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:52   #18
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Yeah the WD40 would be a great idea. It would lubricate, it would not detonate and it is safer to use.
Petrol, If it was a last resort and you just had to, then I think I would simply dribble some in to the manifold and bypass the rag idea.
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COLD START: Spray WD-40 directly into the air intake as you are turning it over. WD40 will not hurt the engine like ether starting fluid will - nonetheless use it sparingly.
If your compression and timing are good it will start with WD-40, regardless of bad injectors, fuel pump, or glow plugs.
If it stops when the WD-40 is burnt, then your fuel system is at fault. This could be injectors, injector pump, fuel pump or bad fuel lines or bad fuel.
If it does not start at all, with WD-40, you have other problems.
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Old 01-03-2007, 15:31   #20
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I know, I know, I said all my questions were answered. BUT....they are not. When I said that I had not yet removed the Thermostart from the engine. I now have it in my hands and that presents two new questions.

1) There appears to be no way to STOP the flow of fuel as the device does not seem to contain an electricaly activated valve so, What stops the flow of fuel when the engine starts???

2) If I did not connect the fuel line, would the heat alone be of any help in starting the engine?

Where I live on the lower Texas coast we rarely have really cold weather but on a couple of mornings when the temp was in the 40's it was hard to start. I am wondering if heat, but no fuel, would be enough to help starting or would it just be worthless without the heated fuel?
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In reading the literature from Perkins is is obvious that they do NOT think starting with ether is a problem. They even provided an adapter for the intake manifold that would allow ether injection while starting!!!

I found in the literature that the fuel was often supplied to the thermostart from a small resivoir above the engine that was fed from the return line. In my case it is supplied directly from the return line. But still no indication of how it was shut off after the engine started. In one place they state that you should "turn on" the fuel supply to the thermostart before starting. But they dont mention turning it back off. Since it would be in the engine room on a boat I suspect these directions were for a tractor where access is better. They also say one should not operate the thermostart "dry" as it could damage the unit. This, however, flies in the face of the fact that the heater is run for 15 to 20 seconds BEFORE pushing the start button which would then supply fuel to the thermostart and that if the engine starts the fuel is immediately turned off by some mechanisum not yet discovered. Thus for 20 out of 25 seconds the thermostart IS running dry. That is assuming the engine starts in 5 seconds. Which it should if its operating properly. Mine never takes more than 2 or three seconds of cranking. So that would be a 90% time of running DRY in my case.
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