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Old 31-07-2013, 19:47   #46
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Just for a second today we thought we might go over a dam instead of through a lock... engine stalled (oops) as we were waiting for the gates to open and the voltage in the battery was not high enough to restart ( invertor). We unplugged the offender and switched to the redundant battery.

We change our primary Racor filter monthly and are paranoid about diesel sources but this thread has me running to buy a funnel filter.
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:49   #47
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For Buddha's Sake... give the ego a break... not every post is about you... that was aimed at the forum in general...

So you'll get your nose all out of joint if the board mechanism attaches a response meant for someone else to your post, but you attach a response to mine, but I'm not supposed to think it was to me. (Please not that I resisted saying "it's not all about you" when you got in such high umbrage over a misplaced response ...)

Not going to beat my head against a wall over you. I know not to follow your advice, and that's the important thing. I also know you can't bear to be wrong.

Since we're making personal observations.
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:52   #48
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And honestly beyond dirty fuel, I've seen two boats in a year who totally blew out their transmissions. They sailed as close as they could get into a bay, anchored, waited for flat conditions, hip tied their dinghy, and got other people in a marina or at a dock to assist.

I think it's prudent to go with one's experience. My only experience hip-towing my boat with dinghy and outboard has been in open water, and i would not want to maneuver it through the turns I would have to make to get to my slip. I would call Towboat US at that point and feel no shame about it.
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All are delightful points....

But how would you get the engine running? At some point you will need it to dock. Calling sea tow is not my preferred way to make an entrance!
If your theoretical person sailed to port (easily done, as recently proved by a captainless ship making the trip without the captain), then he could throw out an anchor if he lacked the skill to dock under sail, which is something many of us have spent some time practising. Or heave to and wait for conditions his skill level could handle. Or anything other than abandon ship. The point is the reason they call them SAIL boats is because they don't need engines. They have sails.

Suppose the batteries were too dead to transmit for help, where would your fellow be? Having a Mai Tai on shore with his boat tied up to a dock.

Hard to take this challenge seriously...
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I think it's prudent to go with one's experience. My only experience hip-towing my boat with dinghy and outboard has been in open water, and i would not want to maneuver it through the turns I would have to make to get to my slip. I would call Towboat US at that point and feel no shame about it.
Well for sure if you're in an area where a professional captain with a highly maneuverable boat can get you into your slip, and you have the financial means or the annual membership, go for it. If I was back in the states I've have tow insurance and for the years I sailed there I always did.

But we're talking about bunga-bunga-ville.
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:04   #51
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Hard to take this challenge seriously...
Simple solution...... Don't %#^! post to the thread. That would have more prudent than pontificating
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:08   #52
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No my dear the point is where many have no qualms calling for a tow, I prefer to work things out on my own.
Sorry but this whole "challenge" doesn't really make sense to me, just too contrived.

If, as you say, you prefer to work things out on your own, then the thing to do was to have worked things out better in advance IE have a Baja Filter, have an isolated, fully charged starting battery, keep a 5 gallon jerry jug of good fuel on board, check your tanks for water before taking off single handed on a long passage.
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Simple solution...... Don't %#^! post to the thread. That would have more prudent than pontificating
Inherent in your challenge was the idea that if one is on a sailboat and the engine won't start, it presents some kind of existential problem. If this is a learning experience for people interested in wayfaring, perhaps the lesson that should be taken away is that if you think that, buy a power boat. Sail is not for you.
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So you'll get your nose all out of joint if the board mechanism attaches a response meant for someone else to your post, but you attach a response to mine, but I'm not supposed to think it was to me. (Please not that I resisted saying "it's not all about you" when you got in such high umbrage over a misplaced response ...)

Not going to beat my head against a wall over you. I know not to follow your advice, and that's the important thing. I also know you can't bear to be wrong.

Since we're making personal observations.
I really do think you should figure out how the 'quote/response' system on CF works.... your all over the shop with your posts...
this is a copy and paste of your comments to MY POST.... if its meant for someone else use their post in your quote... Sheesh... its not rocket science Teech...

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You'd be surprised what one can do when your engine dies or a fouled prop bends your shaft... I sailed up the ICW from Beaufort NC to Oriental and into Whittaker Creek right up to Sailcraft boatyards travel lift dock with a badly bent shaft... just gotta believe in yourself... earned the nickname of 'Turnaround Phil' with that one.. LOL


Are you talking about docking under sail? Did you MISS the part where I said the lower unit on my roller furler has to be replaced? Right now it's all or nothing for my headsail. i've said this before -- it will pop out completely in 5 mph of wind. It HAS done that.

It's all or nothing for my headsail right now. Thanks, but I've helped some of the best sail their boats in, and they play that headsail like a violin.

When you ignore a person's legitimate reasons to not do something, you can't expect them to take your advice seriously. I know a number of very good sailors who all have said the same thing to me -- "No, don't try to sail that boat in -- not with that furler." That was after they encouraged me to do it, but before I explained about my roller furler.

It would have been great to hear "Why do you think you shouldn't do that?"

It's also why I've been at the dock this summer. We've had lots of storms. My boat sails like ship under headsail only, and double that in bad weather, but it's all or nothing for the headsail.

Yes, it's going to be fixed, but unexpected other expenses, along with what turned out in the end to be a broken bone in my foot, has temporarily sidelined me.
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:21   #55
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Well for sure if you're in an area where a professional captain with a highly maneuverable boat can get you into your slip, and you have the financial means or the annual membership, go for it. If I was back in the states I've have tow insurance and for the years I sailed there I always did.

But we're talking about bunga-bunga-ville.

I think I have enough sense to not be trying to live on and sail my boat in bunga-bunga-ville. I don't have the skills and experience for it. I most certainly wouldn't be doing it with a badly designed roller furler.

I am going to learn to dock the boat *some place* safely under sail when the roller furler problem is solved, but there are limits to starting to learn to sail when you're 62. One of them is that you probably won't get to live the wayfarer's life at bunga-bunga-ville.

So i'll take what I can get.
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Simple solution...... Don't %#^! post to the thread. That would have more prudent than pontificating

Nah. I think it's fair to call it as kind of a silly challenge.
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:23   #57
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Oh my gracious you're still all in a flap!
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--->hands ice cream to everybody...need to lower the temperature in this thread by a few degrees! Don't get too excited!

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Choc Choc Chip ice cream...
What a terrible thing to do to chocolate and to ice cream. Give me my chocolate pure and unadulterated and my ice cream with some real vanilla bean.
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---> Sending a gallon of hand made vanilla ice cream to Skip! Bon Apetit!

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