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Old 16-12-2010, 14:17   #16
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Ugggg

Ugggg...why not put an outboard on her. I am not much of a sailor so there may be a hull constriction I am not aware of, if not the new 4stroke outboards are fablous.

Many of the commercial boats are moving frm diesel to ob's.

I hope I am not preaching heresy or blaphneny in questioning diesel. Please guys, don't get rope.
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Old 16-12-2010, 14:29   #17
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I don't think so

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BTW atomic 4's started life has a motor for the Farmall Cub farm tractor.
You may be thinking of the Palmer Engine which is a marinized IHC Cub Cadet Tractor Engine
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Old 16-12-2010, 14:35   #18
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thanks for all the input- I've thought of the out board but I'm worried about following seas submerging it. A power boat can move faster than the waves. A sailboat not so much It's looks like a yanmar 30 is the way I'm going. Thanks to everyone
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I am sure you are aware of this, but there is more to converting to diesel than just plopping an engine in.

Exhaust, fuel tank, filters, fuel lines, controls, engine bed modifications (if needed)/ Make sure you are aware of all the costs.
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Old 16-12-2010, 16:44   #20
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A decision. I love it. For what it's worth_ Anthony at Marine Propulsion has given me advice on the phone that was spot on and didn't make him any money. I've never had work done there and haven't heard any local feedback other than the yard is a good ways out of town and has good prices to attract customers. Just had a Sesame burger for dinner by the way. MMMM. Marine Propulsion is also a Beta Marine dealer from what I've read, I think.

Hope you're back underway soon.
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Old 18-12-2010, 06:41   #21
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Good luck, recomend staying away from pierside also. Too much money with poor fix.
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I would consider the repair/rebuild option first, but if it doesn't work out and you decide to re-power, I recently installed a Beta Marine in my Pearson 323 and documented the installation. My 323 had a Volvo MD11C, but the installation issues should be the same (V-drive an all).

Also, Beta Marine has custom mounting brackets for an Atomic 4 replacement that will make the installation easier since you won't have to modify the engine bed.

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Measure in every direction. IIRC a friend looked into the drop in diesel replacement and discovered that it was taller and he didn't have the clearance. I believe the drop in refers only to the engine bed.

Another friend replaced a diesel with a different brand diesel. I believe her total bill was about double that of the engine itself to have everything done. The additional costs refered to by Chief Engineer.


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".. Beta Marine has custom mounting brackets for an Atomic 4 replacement that will make the installation easier since you won't have to modify the engine bed."

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.. Beta Marine has custom mounting brackets for an Atomic 4 replacement that will make the installation easier since you won't have to make large modifications to the engine bed.
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You may be thinking of the Palmer Engine which is a marinized IHC Cub Cadet Tractor Engine
My dad's Cub had a C-60. Zippy little thing.
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[QUOTE=Tia Bu;579536]A decision. I love it. For what it's worth_ Anthony at Marine Propulsion has given me advice on the phone that was spot on and didn't make him any money. I've never had work done there and haven't heard any local feedback other than the yard is a good ways out of town and has good prices to attract customers.

I had work done there when I had engine problems during a delivery. They were prompt, congenial, and definitely a "good ways out of town". I recommend them highly. I dealt with Pierside , while surveying a trimaran this summer and found them friendly but lacking knowledge in the areas that we were focused on. [wood/epoxy construction] The repairs on that particular boat had been done by Detyans, who fiberglassed a keel repair right over existing bottom paint.[definitely not a place I would recommend] Sea Island Boatworks is highest on my list of recommended repair facilities in the area, but I am unsure how much engine work they get into, as they primarily do new custom boat construction.
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This is a quote from Never Monday "I have a pull out AT4. No idea of it's running condition other than it ran."

That means he has an engine. I'm certain a compression check would let you know if its worth installing.

If I were you I'd PM him.

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This is a quote from Never Monday "I have a pull out AT4. No idea of it's running condition other than it ran."

That means he has an engine. I'm certain a compression check would let you know if its worth installing.

If I were you I'd PM him.

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Contact Moyer marine, they have all kinds of rebuilds ready in which ever stage you want it in. They can hook you up with parts that are needed. This is a good engine, fix it and put it back in.
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"why not put an outboard on her."
Might as well put a torch to the boat and kill it now. Hanging an outboard on a sailboat designed for an inboard pretty much guarantees poor handling, hobbyhorsing, and is a good sign that the boat is being killed by the owner.

Dropping in a diesel for "only" another thousand might be worth considering, even though the extras (entire fuel system, making up exhaust,possible engine mounts, etc.) are going to way exceed that thousand. A lot depends on your budget, how mich you want to invest in the future, and whether you've got the time and skill to DIY a lot of the plumbing instead of paying yard labor.

The diesel also should pay back something--not what it cost but something--if the boat is sold five years down the line.
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You will be hard pressed to recoup your costs from any repower
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