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Old 16-09-2018, 02:48   #1
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Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Hello fellow sailors,

I have often felt the need of having such a product on board my sailboats, and envied those sailors who tell their positive experiences of feeling independent from their engines in most situations.

If there existed a well designed sculling device, I would gladly pay perhaps 100 euros / 150 US dollars for it.

What are your thoughts on this, what are the reasons the oar has not made it to the market?

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Old 16-09-2018, 03:03   #2
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Having made one of my own, I can say that it probably wouldn't be possible to sell them at that price point and stay in business, unless you were selling hundreds.
Also they are big and awkward to ship, and would take up a lot of room in a marine store.
Your best bet if you don't want to build one yourself is to find an old-tyme consignment shop that's got old lifeboat and whaler oars kicking around. We have one close by in Mystic, Connecticut.

Or, you could see this as a business opportunity, begin making them yourself, and make a fortune. I would gladly buy the first one for $150 USD.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Just wouldn't work against a tide, so not suitable for us.

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Just wouldn't work against a tide, so not suitable for us.

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thats where the skill and seamanship comes into play.

traditionally boats would leave with the tide going out,and return on a rising tide ,the tide carrying the boat into and out of eastuaries,sculling was only used to get the boat into a position where the sails could be raised,and once they were dropped ,if the boat could not coast onto a quay.

this is how london became a center for trade since before Roman times.

though probably in your case sculling would not be ideal for visiting marinas, and deal with contrary tides etc
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Old 16-09-2018, 08:13   #5
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

I built a 12 foot sculling oar out of 3 layers of laminated douglas fir. It is also the mast for our dinghy " Mintberry Crunch". The mast step is a slot forward of the centerboard well. I have, lazily I suppose, never attempted to propel "Mana" with it. I used to be able to move my first boat " Tramp", a wooden, converted Navy whaleboat, at over a knot sculling with the huge outboard rudder. Took a bit to get going, but not much effort to maintain after she was moving. Of course I was a young framer and had pretty big guns at the time.
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Old 16-09-2018, 08:35   #6
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

If you want a long oar, the older crew rowing sweeps are 12.5 ft long and are lightweight. since the newer blades "hatchets" are asymmetric, you would probably want one of the old style symmetric "Macon" blades. Since these are no longer used in competitive rowing, if you can find some, they would be cheap. A website that has used rowing equipment is "row2k.com". Good luck
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Contact the Wooden Boat Society, or a boat shop that does vintage boat work in maritime locations. They can probably put you in contact with someone to make an oar. Not going to be cheap though. As mentioned , it's an art of sorts. Heck just plain spruce rowboat oars are expensive now.
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Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Two reasons.
1. No market, very, very few people want such a a thing.
2. Average person who does, won’t pay a premium price that is required for custom work. You said you would pay $ 150, my guess is ten times that to have one custom made, but that’s a guess.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

How about a new high-tech take on a sculling oar: two-piece aluminum or composite shaft, plastic or composite blade, stainless sculling pivot mechanism (whatever the olde-tyme nautical name for that is) ?
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Welcome aboard Voiliers Libres!
Yeah the cost thing, even a regular aluminum whitewater 11 or 12' oar will be a $100, and as you may know, the shaft of a yuloh very long and often bent, so it makes sense that it would need to be custom made to each boat, given that freeboard is the primary limiting factor. I could see a carpenter specializing in yulohs perhaps. I'd sure love to get a quote from a good one! Stowage of the yuloh is also an issue. I am lucky with my boat. I have 11 foot oars and they stow inside well because I happen to have the hatch under the cockpit open to the salon and the oars can be stowed there when not on deck (literally and figuratively.) A large yuloh with a bent shaft would be cumbersome at best on many modern boats unless it could be broken down. These threads may be of interest too:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ar-145638.html
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...or-158700.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ne-184799.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ng-121734.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ng-115725.html
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Hello fellow sailors,


What are your thoughts on this, what are the reasons the oar has not made it to the market?

Sincerely
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They are, for a 30 ft boat you can find cheap one for 100-150 € and a good one is around 300-350 €.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Let me google that for you:

Collars Oars
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

https://sailingauklet.com/2013/10/13/the-yuloh/
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Let me google that for you:

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That's the kind of link I'd like to find more locally... that's a good find.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

The only sailors I've heard that employed a sculling oar were the Pardeys on their engineless 27-foot wooden sailboat. And, by all standards, they were exceptional sailors. However, depending on the length and displacement of your vessel, it may be ineffective or impractical. Also, consider the excellent remarks by Atoll, previously, before spending any money. I have never been in a situation where a sculling oar would have been helpful or practical. Ever tried rowing against a 4-knot current? Good luck and safe sailing. Rognvald
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