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Old 11-01-2014, 14:00   #16
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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

Sounds like this PB blaster is a good product. I wonder if it's sold in Australia? (OK, Google found it!)
Might be under a different name perhaps?
Anyone got a link to it that has a description?
Simon is anything in the other place identical to the 'problem' one but up the other end of the head? Mine has two sender units up the header tank end... one either side.
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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

A pretty standard product in the States, never leave home without it. Here you go mate:

PB Penetrating Catalyst
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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

Wd40 might be similar. We certainly used it for the same job.
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Wd40 might be similar. We certainly used it for the same job.
Penetrating oil ........... Average load to break free

None ..............................516 pounds
WD-40 .......................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster .....................214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ............... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ......................106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix............ 53 pounds
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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

PB blaster is much better than WD-40, especially on rust. I'd soak it for a few days, heating it each day and re-soaking it, if that doesn't work, I think I would leave it be and put my thermocouple somewhere else.
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Penetrating oil ........... Average load to break free



None ..............................516 pounds

WD-40 .......................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster .....................214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ............... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil ......................106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix............ 53 pounds

Source? Interesting if true, I mean ATF and acetone reduces torque by a factor of ten?
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4.108 engine temperature sender

Wow, I thought wd40 was pretty good. I wonder if it varies depending on the materials involved. For instance do some solvents work better with aluminium and others with steel while others work better with combinations of various metals.

Where did those figures come from?

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... Where did those figures come from?
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Apparently, Machinist's Workshop Magazine (March/April or May/June, 2007)
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...ng-oil-196347/
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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

Interesting, I'll have to give the ATF and Acetone thing a try, both are cheap and available
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OT - Penetrating Oil
Thank you GordMay, I don't know how you do it.

Good read there, again a bit light on the details but the general description of the tests I could find seemed to imply an iron bolt in an iron casing, simply by their lack of mentioning any other material.

I'm not about to throw out my WD40, but I will supplement the workshop standbys with the autotrans fluid and acetone mix when I have a moment.

Finally, the article seems to imply that WD40 is the more appealing after shave, but we here in Australia know that nothing beats two stroke for broad appeal. The implications of practical manliness brought on by the smell of two stroke cover everything from mowing the back garden to mastering the high seas in our power boats.

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Re: 4.108 engine temperature sender

A team at the Drexel University engineering school conducted side-by-side comparison tests of vegetable oil mixtures, WD-40 and automatic transmission fluid, and found that a mixture of vegetable oil with 10 percent acetone works as well to free rusted bolts as WD-40.

WD40 Alternative ➥
https://www.engineeringforchange.org...-FinReport.pdf

How to make penetrating oil ➥
https://www.engineeringforchange.org...ating_oil.html
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Re: 4.108 Engine Temperature Sender

AGAIN, Gordy with all the info and backed up with references....: thumb:
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A team at the Drexel University engineering school conducted side-by-side comparison tests of vegetable oil mixtures, WD-40 and automatic transmission fluid, and found that a mixture of vegetable oil with 10 percent acetone works as well to free rusted bolts as WD-40.

WD40 Alternative ➥
https://www.engineeringforchange.org...-FinReport.pdf

How to make penetrating oil ➥
https://www.engineeringforchange.org...ating_oil.html
That's all very we'll but did they check to see how attractive you were to the opposite sex when coved in the stuff... Oh... Hang on. Covered in VEGETABLE oil... Never mind.
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