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valhalla360 · 09-03-2015, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Dockhead

How much could it cost to convert to 110v? Does Groupe Beneteau really install different cabling for Europe when so much of their production goes West? If you dont have to change cabling, the cost will be trivial. Even with cabling, I doubt that the cost will be material in the context of a $300,000 boat.

As others have said, the fact that the boat has been sitting unused for two years is just the average situation for a used boat. You are guaranteed to have issues, but you have those even with brand new boats. Much depends on whether it was laid up properly or not - like with any used boat. I'd much rather have a used boat with 150 hours than one with 1000.

I would expect it to be priced like a used boat, not a new one, but some premium for low hours would be reasonable if the boat was properly laid up and surveys well.

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Not sure if they use different guage wiring. I would not expect them to use the more expensive heavier guage but shouldn't be too hard to check out as part of the process.

The fact he is asking these questions suggests to me that its a job to be farmed out and that means he's probably looking in the thousands to rewire the boat even if the wire can be left in place. Just worse if he needs to pull new wire. It can certainly be done but could easily add 10% to the up front cost of the boat.

If you look at my original comment, I wasn't trying to scare him off.

Sand crab · 09-03-2015, 08:13

Wire size in euro spec boats has been brought up before with no definitive answer for modern ones such as this. Normal household wiring in the US is 12 AWG although 14 AWG will do for most usages. 12 uses a 20 amp breaker and 14 is limited to a 15 amp. A big microwave or other high draw devices might trip the 15 especially if more than one item is in use at the same time. According to this chart the size is comparable is a 2.5 mm and that gives a amp rating between the 12 and 14. I'm interested in what size wires are in it. Can you find out? If it's the 1.5mm then you are screwed.
Conversion table: The American Wire Gauge [AWG] and metric wire standards

FWIW When you double the voltage you cut the amps in half for the same usage so smaller wires can be safely used. Theoretically a euro spec boat could be equipped this way but in practice they may be wired for one size fits all as others here have theroized.

Sand crab · 09-03-2015, 10:50

FWIW There are dual voltge/dual frequency marine air con units available. So it would work off the genny and shore power anywhere. Mermaid has this option and others. You would still have a few other issues with the rest of the boat electricals.

rajsach · 09-03-2015, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Sand crab

FWIW There are dual voltge/dual frequency marine air con units available. So it would work off the genny and shore power anywhere. Mermaid has this option and others. You would still have a few other issues with the rest of the boat electricals.

Just confirmed some stuff . All lagoons have the same wires regardless of delivery as 220 or 120. Do that's good. The gen is an Onan the can be switched easily to 120. The boat doesn't have aircon yet so not a prob there. Battery charger does both . So I will have to get a new inverter and microwave and change all the outlet plugs to 120 . Not too bad

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Cadence · 09-03-2015, 11:29

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Originally Posted by rajsach

Just confirmed some stuff . All lagoons have the same wires regardless of delivery as 220 or 120. Do that's good. The gen is an Onan the can be switched easily to 120. The boat doesn't have aircon yet so not a prob there. Battery charger does both . So I will have to get a new inverter and microwave and change all the outlet plugs to 120 . Not too bad

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I'm on a rip today. Have you looked at her yet?

The wiring is a non issue. People cruise the world today and seem to do well.

A two year old boat on the hard for two years after a crossing sounds good at a good price point.

I would be more inclined to be concerned about flagging, lien and title issues than about 110 or 220. Even down to has the yard been getting paid for time on the hill.

If you can afford a $300K boat +/- the voltage is a nit.

rajsach · 09-03-2015, 12:59

Going to check her out in a couple of weeks

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Cadence · 09-03-2015, 13:15

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Originally Posted by rajsach

Going to check her out in a couple of weeks

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Best of luck.

Until, it is all speculation. Let us know.

capnjack.morton · 09-03-2015, 16:28

As trashed goes, this looks pristine to me. Agree with previous posts about finding out whether these photos are current, and expecting to inspect and possibly replace rubber parts (impellers, etc.), but I would surely give it serious consideration.