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Old 22-02-2018, 19:46   #1
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Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

It seems that more and more cats are using teak (usually synthetic) in their cockpits. Owners rave about how much warmer and less plasticky the boat looks after the installation.

While I see synthetic teak on the sugar scoops, it seems like almost no-one installs teak on the side-decks all the way to the bows. Is this because they get more sun and synthetic teak retains more heat? Cost? What are the cons?
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Old 22-02-2018, 19:57   #2
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

I'd guess cost and weight are the two big factors. Cats like to be lite and their owners tend to be frugal.
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Old 22-02-2018, 20:08   #3
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

Too hot without shade.....good for cockpits
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Old 22-02-2018, 20:34   #4
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

It could be weight but I doubt it, washers,genset,250 pound dinks are getting to be normal on these boats so let's scratch weight off the list.
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Old 22-02-2018, 21:06   #5
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Wauquiez built 13 Kronos catamarans with teak decks.
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Old 23-02-2018, 11:01   #6
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

I've thought about this for a while and the advantages of having a synthetic teak deck totally outweigh putting down a new teak deck or even going with nonskid. The best way to think of it is to forget about the teak deck pattern and think of it as putting a rubber water tight mat down over areas you walk on. first it acts as a shock absorbent for anything that drops on the deck. Second these surfaces are easy to keep clean. If you get blood on the deck you simply wash it off and maintenance wise no more sanding and calking that comes with an original teak deck. You can also get it in light colors so it will not turn into a heat sink and even glow in the dark calking for those areas that you want to see underfoot at night. With the esthetic side it helps break up the lines on a boat and make it look more substantial than a standard nonskid deck. The downside is they are not cheap with an equivalent cost to a teak deck for a good quality version. Second when they wear out they look like cheap plastic. You can sand them with a wire brush roller to bring the surface back but you can only do it so many times like teak before you have to replace it.
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

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It could be weight but I doubt it, washers,genset,250 pound dinks are getting to be normal on these boats so let's scratch weight off the list.
Yeah but those all provide functions where the teak deck is aesthetics.
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

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I'd guess cost and weight are the two big factors. Cats like to be lite and their owners tend to be frugal.
Frugal??? Or just frugal as most cruisers are?
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Old 23-02-2018, 13:31   #9
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

Hi.

For most multi owners it tends to be a weight issue.
Weight of additional equipment is usually useful weight.

Weight of teak or for that part plastic teak is usually not offering a lot apart from perhaps better looks and slightly better feel.

In my eyes KiwiGrip paint or similar is the best for the large areas of a multi deck.
Remember a multi has 2-3 times the deck surface area of a similar sized mono.
So a teak deck on it is much more heavy too.

It's not the right attitude to say "well we already added weight by equipment xyz might as well add the teak than too".
Sure way to overload a multi and turn it into a dog.

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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

Does anyone have personal experience with CoolTeak or a similar product in terms of heat retention?

Also, what would you estimate the weight per square foot is for synthetic teak? I didn't think about it being more than 80lbs total to cover both sidedecks. Is that a crazy underestimation? I was gonna tell the Mrs. that if she wanted beautiful faux teak, she needed to stick to her diet as a tradeoff to keep our carrying capacity even.
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

Better the men start a diet ;-) usually they weigh in much more...
And it's in most cases not muscles..

Sorry could not resist.

For weight:

Measure area to be covered x Weight per area unit of the deck material to be applied + Weight of glue to be used per area unit.

You get the weight per area from the supplier.

Pretty straight forward...
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

For me, it's all of the above. Weight, cost, heat and basically I'm just not a fan. Our old boat had teak decks, real teak over steel. Nothing but a PITA.
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

Would the teak decks get really hot under bare feet while enjoying a sunny caribbean day on a mooring.....and also wondering about grip on the bottom of those topsiders when those decks get wet with spray or rain.

I am getting so bloody old, I cannot remember any real problems on a couple of the teaked decked vessels that I sailed quite some time back.

One was a 37 foot well found Centurian monohull in the French West Indies, and the other was a 55 ft Tayana, that i skippered for charters to Catalina . This was real teak, we are not familiar with synthetic teaks properties.

Just curious as to the advantage of teak over non skid decks. Other than looking good at all costs.
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Old 24-02-2018, 13:39   #14
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

We are in the Bahamas right now. 3:30 pm sun is on the cockpit teak deck.

Temperature per infrared thermometer:

Teak Deck = 46 C
White Fiberglass 36 C
Grey Cockpit Cushion 50 C
Air temperature 29 C (in the shade)
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Re: Why not (synthetic) teak on the sidedecks of cats?

here is a link to the cool teak page. The lighter color will keep it as cool as a normal white deck surface so heat retention does not appear to be an issue. As for being a non skid surface I have been on several boats with it and you cannot tell it apart from a teak deck.
https://www.plasdeck.com/marine-deck...eak-teak-lines
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