Originally Posted by arsenelupiga
i was thinking about upwind performance and in most conditions monos will do better.
Then I read a blog about mono guy with wife on circumvigation. They did 4 days upwind in 35 kn somewhere in greece
. Wife said enough is enough and had to turn around. They managed to do 10 miles against weather
in 4 days.
wife was writing the blog of course.
I hate to think about damage rigging had to sustain.
motor/sail or motor if see rigging stretched, i will choose every time.
Greece have been on the last years my playground and the conditions there upwind, with 35k wind
have nothing to the with the ones you can find in the Atlantic. On a small yacht, like the ones most of us own, you cannot motor upwind against 35k on the short period very steep 3 to 4 meters waves, that kind of wind
will create if sustained and on non protected waters.
You could move upwind with the engine but the speed would be ridiculous low and you could not go straight to the waves. The pounding and discomfort would be huge, on a cat or on a mono.
Actually the boat will sail better than motor, being the kind of power generated by a sail on those circumstances bigger than the power a small engine, or two small ones, is able to provide, being also the boat more stable and "tied" to a side, not bouncing around. More directional stability and more control at the wheel
Nobody that knows those waters would go upwind out of land protection with 35k wind on a small yacht.
Not all cats or all monos are the same in what regards upwind potential. Mine is particularly good and even so with that kind of sea with an apparent wind of 33K (28.3 real) I can do about 6 K at an apparent wind angle of 35º (42º true) making a VMG of 4.46K, sailing solo and not pushing the boat (with a crew and on racing
mode I could do better).
Off course under those conditions I am having fun (because I like to sail) but having fun at the wheel
for some hours. Certainly it would not be fun for a day (unless I had someone to make turns at the wheel) and definitively tiresome for several days.
However my wife hates it (she gets seasick under those conditions) and certainly the motion of the boat, even if not pounding, is very uncomfortable and it is certainly a wet ride.
I don't deliberately sail into those conditions because I enjoy the company of my wife and certainly she would not come with me if I would made that an habit.
Normally we don't go upwind on the Med, offshore
, if the prevision is for more than 20k winds and even for that I have and hard time convincing my wife. Off course, sometimes the previsions fail and we get a lot more than that and that's what my wife fears.
Anything over 15K true is a bit uncomfortable for my wife. That has also to do with the speed of the boat, if you sail even with over 15k upwind doing 5 or 6k or with a bigger wind angle the motion is much more comfortable than going at 7.5K really close to the wind, but the VMG is obviously very different as well as the duration of the passage
(the fun of sailing too
Note that what I am saying has to do exclusively with the Med and type of seas you find here. Nothing to do with the Atlantic were going upwind with 35k can be much less tiresome than going upwind with 20k on the med.