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Old 11-04-2014, 19:47   #16
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Frankly I don't like the Oram because of the outboards.
Interestingly, the outboards are one of my favourite features of my boat. We were talking with friends about this recently, and the fact is, you'd have to offer me SERIOUS money to switch to diesels.

Certainly there are downsides, but they're all easily overcome IMO. However the upsides are very difficult to replace.
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44 do you have an idea of what the payload would be for the Oram. What is the payload for your boat?
How does your Oram 44 perform when it is loaded?
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44 do you have an idea of what the payload would be for the Oram. What is the payload for your boat?
How does your Oram 44 perform when it is loaded?

We still perform pretty well:



Fully loaded for full-time living aboard. And just the main and jib - we don't actually have any dedicated light weather sails.

No idea how much gear we're carrying, it just seems to be a LOT. Would have to be around 2 tonnes at least.
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Old 11-04-2014, 23:33   #19
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Frankly I don't like the Oram because of the outboards.
And I would struggle to own a boat with diesels. But thats a personal view, I sell boats with both, for for me it will always be an outboard driven boat if at all possible.

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Factor what makes you like the Oram the most? I too like the Oram the most because of the large cockpit and walk through to the transoms. The performance of the Oram is also applealing. It should have good motion and turn of speed. It just needs a bit more finishing on the inside.
Simplicity, above all else, light slim easily driven carries a good load and performs well. I do like the Mumby's as well, but like all custom boats you really want to understand the pedigree of the builder.

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I would choose a cat that doesn't get seasick, doesn't shed, and most importantly, fits in a crock pot if needed .

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Hilarious - never heard that joke before, really witty
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Can you beach any of them without damaging them?
Just curious.

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Can you beach any of them without damaging them?
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Yes. The Oram for certain. Possibly the others too, depends on their rudder construction.

The Oram has daggerboards, kick up rudders and outboard motors. It will float in less than .5m of water, and can sit on it's hulls. We do it regularly.
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Should be able to beach the Mumby no problem and probably the wilderness, but that depends on the build. And of Course as 44C says - the Oram
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We still perform pretty well:

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Geez you annoy me, mainsail is setting average - jib could be better trimmed and you are still doing 9 knots in 10 knots of breeze. Pay more attention and you would be doing windspeed.
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