Member Map Go to the Home Page Portal Cruisers & Sailing Forum Cruisers & Sailing Photo Gallery Manage Your Profile! Member Directory Search past discussions! Frequently Asked Questions Community Policies & Posting Rules Register Today, Its FREE!

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > Multihull Sailboats
Register Gallery FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Welcome to CruisersForum.com the friendliest forum community where sailing and cruising enthusiasts meet online to exchange knowledge. Our members have contributed over 5,000 pages of information including discussions about boats, destinations, electronic equipment, book reviews, living aboard, crews wanted and so much more...

You are currently viewing our site as a guest which allows you to read most all of our content. By joining our community (For FREE) you will have access to participate in the discussions, post new topics, connect and communicate with other members, respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely FREE so please join our community today!

Click Here to Register!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-05-2008, 13:09   #1
Registered User
 
Brandywine's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Napa, CA
Boat: Shopping for catamaran
Posts: 77
what it takes?

Ok guys not to bring up the new vs used debate but let say you are getting ready to go on your circumnavigation on a 5/10 year old catamaran that is basically show room stock. What would the full list of major add-on’s look like?

Radar
Charter plotter
Auto pilot
Solar panels
Backup/auxiliary anchor
Spare rode
Para anchor and/or drogue
Electric heads (have on our current boat would not go with out them)
Life raft
EPRIB
Water maker

+100,000 littile things I can not think of…
  Reply With Quote
Old 14-05-2008, 14:16   #2
Moderator
 
Hud3's Avatar
Site Helper
Profile:  Location: Nevis, West Indies
Boat: Island Packet 380 "The Belle of Virginia"
Posts: 1,323
You'll need an SSB, Pactor modem and laptop to keep in touch with family, friends, and fellow cruisers.

Here's one that you might not think about until you start cruising. Get some Textilene, or similar porous fabric, vertical panels made to attach to your cockpit cover to block the sun when it gets lower. Nothing worse than blinding glare when you're trying to enjoy a sundowner in the cockpit. Our panel is the 95% variety. You can still see through it, though.
__________________
Hud
s/y The Belle of Viriginia, IP 380
Nevis, West Indies
  Reply With Quote
Old 14-05-2008, 14:22   #3
Registered User
 
Brandywine's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Napa, CA
Boat: Shopping for catamaran
Posts: 77
wow not sure how I forgot that;

SSB, pactor modem
SAT phone


I am leaving laptops off as in my line of work I normally have 3 or 4 around the house at any one time.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14-05-2008, 18:18   #4
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur'
Posts: 531
You'll need to make sure you have adequate amp/hour capacity in your battery banks, high output alternators/smart regulators, consider a wind generator (offshore in conditions when there is little sun, there is often decent wind), at least 3 anchors (including, in all likelihood, a new and larger primary), adequate backing plates for all mooring cleats, jack lines, a proper bosuns chair, spares, spares and more spares, back up paper charts, cruising guides, a good digital barometer with memory, a back-up handheld VHF, a good radar reflector, good 7x50 marine binos with float strap and a back up pair, a large assortment of current parachute and other types of flares, bolt cutters (in case you lose your rig), a decent inflatable with outboard (and proper documentation for the same), a liferaft and ditch kit, a man overboard pole, a rig for preventing jibes, an alarm system, a hidden area for valuables, a good medical text and kit (with prescriptions for painkillers etc.) and....

The larger than standard battery bank, high output alternators and wind generator may seem like overkill - but if you are planning on using your SSB, electric toilets and refrigeration you are going to need all the capacity you can get.

Brad

Brad
  Reply With Quote
Old 14-05-2008, 19:50   #5
Registered User
 
Brandywine's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Napa, CA
Boat: Shopping for catamaran
Posts: 77
Thanks Brad,

We Have a 36 foot boat out here on SF bay... so we have a lot of the little stuff, Hand held GPS, hand held weather station, hand held vhf, good 7x50... as well as a good pile of foul weather gear. There is a good chance we will pick up a boat in Florida so not sure how much it will be worth shipping.

the question was more directed at things like the Battery Bank, I think most are around 450 stock and it sounds like 850 is more the norm for cruisers I will have this or more if I can get away with it.

I like solar a lot so was planning at least 520watts in solar might go all the way to 680 but at what it cost per panel right now we will just have to see

How about a good list of engine spares?

List of tools to bring?
  Reply With Quote
Old 14-05-2008, 21:11   #6
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Kelowna , British Columbia
Boat: Tayana 42 CC
Posts: 108
Don't forget the most essential piece of equipment when going offshore ,a reliable windvane [sic: windvane type self-steering]
  Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 04:42   #7
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Catana 471
Posts: 310
Fillet knife.

  Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 08:32   #8
Registered User
 
David M's Avatar
Profile:  Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: No sailboat yet. Here to learn.
Posts: 1,756
A dinghy. Ditch bag. Gumby suit in colder latitudes. Type 1 PFD's. Machinery spares. Sat phone. Paper charts. Hand held backup GPS. Maybe a sextant with reduction tables with nautical almanac and battery powered chronometer. Perhaps a HAM radio. Fishing gear.

Your favorite adult beverage. Stuff to read. MP3 player. Movies.
__________________


Last edited by David M : 15-05-2008 at 08:45.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 09:53   #9
Registered User
 
imagine2frolic's Avatar
Profile:  Location: N.E. Florida
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 883
Status: Online
& the MRS.
Status: Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 11:39   #10
Registered User
Profile: 
Posts: 276
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandywine View Post
Ok guys not to bring up the new vs used debate but let say you are getting ready to go on your circumnavigation on a 5/10 year old catamaran that is basically show room stock. What would the full list of major add-on’s look like?

...

+100,000 littile things I can not think of…
I'd add AIS, rum, repair manual, tool and parts. And some books and games, a digital camera. And more rum, cut resistant gloves for cleaning fish while moving.

Oh, and a sense of adventure. Don't forget that.
__________________
Regards,

Maren

The sea is always beautiful, sometimes mysterious and, on occasions, frighteningly powerful.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 16:05   #11
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur'
Posts: 531
Good grief, Imagine to Frolic - I forgot the Mrs.! As to spares: shop manuals for the diesels and transmissions/saildrives, four waterpump impellers, sufficient oil and filters for 2 changes, gearbox oil plus a pump with hose and holding container, 2 spare engine fuel filters (and replacement elements, if required, for the others), spare alternator (if you convert to Balmar or other high-output alternator and smart regulator, keep the original as spares), good lengths of anchor (or other proper tinned marine wire) of various gauges plus heat shrink butt connectors and captive end fittings, decent lengths of spare hose of the appropriate type and diameters for all plumbing/thru-hulls, spare holding tank hose of good quality (odorsafe or equivalent), spare s/s hose clamps of various diameters, spare anodes for the diesel, saildrive/propshaft and hull, spare in-line fuses for all equipement that is wired with them, spare breakers, spare docklines, sheets and halyards (the old ones will do if you upgrade), sailcloth, sail tape, twine, cotter pins, clevis pins, one spare turnbuckle and, if you use staylock or equivalent, spares for it and a spare piece of 1x19 rigging of adequate length to replace the forestay, a spare camcleat if used on the traveller, spare snatch block, one spare jibsheet block, caulking (both 5200 and 4200 (or equivalent )and also silicone, spare main and jib (again of you upgrade, the old ones will do), spare battcars for the main (both for the batten fittings and the rest), one length of batten sufficient to replace the longest (or to be cut down for the shorter ones), a rebuild kit for the head, a spare electric bilge pump, spares for the manual bilge pump, two spare winch handles, spare clips for the winches (especially if they are not Andersen) plus proper lube for them and your windlass, spare bulbs for all navigation/interior lights, spare spark plugs and fuel filter for the outboard, spare gear lube for the same, spare prop for the outboard (plus spare pins), assorted ss screws, bolt, nuts,locknuts, washers.... Gotta fly, but that would be a good start.

Brad
  Reply With Quote
Old 15-05-2008, 22:28   #12
Registered User
 
David M's Avatar
Profile:  Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: No sailboat yet. Here to learn.
Posts: 1,756
Good grief Brad. I think you sank the boat.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2008, 18:14   #13
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur'
Posts: 531
That's what I'm carrying and, while it may seem excessive to some, it provides not only some comfort at being able to perform most basic repairs while underway, it also provides spares that may be difficult to locate quickly in various areas of the world. It has also been my experience that you are far less likely to need to replace something for which you have a ready replacement.

Really, if you look over the list, the only particularly heavy items are the alternator, the back-up sails and the oil. I wouldn't leave home without any of them, particularly since the sails and alternator are items that I already have. In any event, on my admittedly rather heavy displacement 40 foot cat, the inventory will add less in weight than I will gain in security.

Brad

PS - I don't consider any of my three anchors to be 'spares'.
  Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2008, 19:10   #14
Registered User
 
Gene :^)'s Avatar
Profile:  Boat: 1914 Fantail M.Y. "Strathbelle"
Posts: 77

Can I bring spares in case of trouble with the Mrs? Or should I expect to replace that with locally available?
__________________
Gene :^)

1914 Fantail Motor Yacht of Riveted Iron & Steel
http://www.Strathbelle.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2008, 14:07   #15
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur'
Posts: 531
In my experience Gene, women aren't quite as easy to replace as fuel or oil filters - regardless of the source. I guess that's the exception that proves my rule - carry a 'spare' woman on board and I can virtually guarantee that you'll need to replace them both.

Brad
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Newbie Takes Up Sailing/Boating psellars Meets & Greets 2 03-09-2007 07:58


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:04.


Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement
Airstream Trailer Forum - Aquarium & Reef Forum
Royal Forum - Book and Reader Forum - Yoga Forum
Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Yoga Forum
Interference - U2, Pop Culture & Social Responsibility
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0