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Old 24-03-2015, 10:15   #16
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I've been looking for a good deal on a blue water cruiser to start circumnavigation next year. I have about a year to prepare so I don't mind a project. I've been seeing this cat for over a year docked behind someone's house and was just told that the owner may be willing to sell. Before knocking on his door I wanted to see if it would fit my needs. Can anyone tell me what it is??
Like for a mate, good look is great but it's not enough "Three crew and dog rescued by US Coast Guard after 53ft catamaran ‘broke in half’ off the coast of Florida
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Rescue after catamaran 'broke in half'

All this to say, multihulls are subjected to impressive stresses in not so calm seas, when one hull is up there & the other one is god knows where... I love multihulls to go up & down the West Indies or as a live-aboard... But I don't know if I would plan a round the world cruise in one. "Cruising" multihull designers try to play it safe by reducing the sail area, knowing anyway that most "sailors" will turn the engine on if they drop under 5 knots...
Down here, we see a lot of charter cats motoring UPWIND & DOWNWIND Often you have to choose between seaworthiness & volume. Outremer used to built excellent offshore catamarans, but even them have changed their designs under the pressure of charter fleet managers... Good luck !
http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/fr...le/Outremer-45
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Old 24-03-2015, 17:26   #17
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Like for a mate, good look is great but it's not enough "Three crew and dog rescued by US Coast Guard after 53ft catamaran ‘broke in half’ off the coast of Florida
Read more at

Rescue after catamaran 'broke in half'

All this to say, multihulls are subjected to impressive stresses in not so calm seas, when one hull is up there & the other one is god knows where... I love multihulls to go up & down the West Indies or as a live-aboard... But I don't know if I would plan a round the world cruise in one. "Cruising" multihull designers try to play it safe by reducing the sail area, knowing anyway that most "sailors" will turn the engine on if they drop under 5 knots...
Down here, we see a lot of charter cats motoring UPWIND & DOWNWIND Often you have to choose between seaworthiness & volume. Outremer used to built excellent offshore catamarans, but even them have changed their designs under the pressure of charter fleet managers... Good luck !
http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/fr...le/Outremer-45
yeah,

you will be taking a real risk with a catamaran of it breaking in half. particually with an Outremer.
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Old 24-03-2015, 21:01   #18
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No This is a Gunboat Just launched in Cali
Saw that Gunboat this past weekend while eating at Shoreline Village. Where is it headed? Would love to take a peek aboard! I am in Shoreline Marina.
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Like for a mate, good look is great but it's not enough "Three crew and dog rescued by US Coast Guard after 53ft catamaran ‘broke in half’ off the coast of Florida
Read more at

Rescue after catamaran 'broke in half'

All this to say, multihulls are subjected to impressive stresses in not so calm seas, when one hull is up there & the other one is god knows where... I love multihulls to go up & down the West Indies or as a live-aboard... But I don't know if I would plan a round the world cruise in one. "Cruising" multihull designers try to play it safe by reducing the sail area, knowing anyway that most "sailors" will turn the engine on if they drop under 5 knots...
Down here, we see a lot of charter cats motoring UPWIND & DOWNWIND Often you have to choose between seaworthiness & volume. Outremer used to built excellent offshore catamarans, but even them have changed their designs under the pressure of charter fleet managers... Good luck !
http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/fr...le/Outremer-45
Serious drivel.

A few years back, several crewmembers were rescued when their America's cup yacht broke in half in quite benign conditions. So to use your logic, every monohull becomes a deathtrap when winds get up to around 20 knots?
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Saw that Gunboat this past weekend while eating at Shoreline Village. Where is it headed? Would love to take a peek aboard! I am in Shoreline Marina.
It is in Cabo now and beat Phedo in the Newport - Cabo race.
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It looks a lot like a Grainger 45....made by Lightwave yachts in Coomera Queensland Australia.

It's a great boat comes with either minikeels or dagger boards or both ....

Fast , good volume and well built ...

Google Lightwave yachts or cats .... if I'm incorrect ...sorry

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Old 25-03-2015, 03:01   #22
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It looks a lot like a Grainger 45....made by Lightwave yachts in Coomera Queensland Australia.

It's a great boat comes with either minikeels or dagger boards or both ....

Fast , good volume and well built ...

Google Lightwave yachts or cats .... if I'm incorrect ...sorry

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definitely not a Lightwave 45. Grainger 48 possibly.
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Old 25-03-2015, 06:21   #23
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Serious drivel. A few years back, several crewmembers were rescued when their America's cup yacht broke in half in quite benign conditions. So to use your logic, every monohull becomes a deathtrap when winds get up to around 20 knots?
Hi ! You can't compare a pure America cup racing sailboat (Not one but two went down like that, broken in two http://youtu.be/8Yau9A7XDHs I can't fin the other one; I think it was the sparring-partner of the Oracle challenger for it was all black) to what our friend is looking for i.e. a cruising catamaran that he can sail towards the sunset, with his family, drinking Piña colada When you compare round the world racing catamarans & the charter contraptions that go up & down the windward islands your comparing apples & tennis balls !
To live aboard, catamarans are a dream & all cat owners will remind me (Too poor to own one*) that we all spend ten time more days at anchorage than sailing anyway... As long as you're realistic about the performance of your dream boat, go ahead

*$40K got me off offshore ready with a perfect 1987 Ericson 34... I would need $100K & up to get myself a cat I would dare to take offshore across the Gulfstream in December
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cats breaking in half ?? when i first bought mine a had a good friend that had benn living on his boat 12 years he taught me a lot , i had been on a really nice cat that had been one of those that were designed for rentals ,, i commented to my friend how nice , open , a roomy it was ,, he commented then your boat is 3 times the boat his is ,, that boat would break in half in the north atlantic storms that which your boat is built for ,, made me feel good about her ,, 42 solaris ,, for sale here in the classified section ,, great boat my last hurrah i have swallowed the anchor ..
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Outremer used to built excellent offshore catamarans, but even them have changed their designs under the pressure of charter fleet managers... Good luck !
http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/fr...le/Outremer-45
What absolute rubbish. Not a single O45 or indeed )51 or 5X has been placed in a charter fleet in our part of the world, and we are current O dealer of the year..

Talk about ill informed drivel.
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Like for a mate, good look is great but it's not enough "Three crew and dog rescued by US Coast Guard after 53ft catamaran ‘broke in half’ off the coast of Florida
Read more at

Rescue after catamaran 'broke in half'

All this to say, multihulls are subjected to impressive stresses in not so calm seas, when one hull is up there & the other one is god knows where... I love multihulls to go up & down the West Indies or as a live-aboard... But I don't know if I would plan a round the world cruise in one. "Cruising" multihull designers try to play it safe by reducing the sail area, knowing anyway that most "sailors" will turn the engine on if they drop under 5 knots...
Down here, we see a lot of charter cats motoring UPWIND & DOWNWIND Often you have to choose between seaworthiness & volume. Outremer used to built excellent offshore catamarans, but even them have changed their designs under the pressure of charter fleet managers... Good luck !
http://www.catamaran-outremer.com/fr...le/Outremer-45
You clearly don't understand the nature and story behind the sinking of that particular vessel which bears no similarity to any production charter cats. Suggest you check. As for your comments about Outremer a manufacturer with more circumnavigating cats than most. As others have suggested. Pure drivel.
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