You people are too kind, let me try and reply to you all in one message if possible
Thanks much for some concrete information, models/brands of boats are very helpful as I can google
and look on brokers sites to get a very good idea of what you are talking about. Some I hadn't even considered, until now! And yes, there's no way in hell we're buying a boat that's not passed it's survey
with flying colors (or at least well enough that we feel confident we can buy it and fix the defects for a reasonable total price).
Funny you should say that we have a lot in common because our list of boats to consider has a Catalac
10 on there (pretty high on the list, as well). The downer to the 10M? There just doesn't seem to be that many out there for sale
and the ones we did find were in the EU (which makes sense, I guess). Unless I'm mistaken I read somewhere there was a grand total of 45 constructed, which would explain that
But any boat made to handle the North Sea rates well in my book. I remember being on a VERY large roll-on-roll-off ferry
on those waters and it was so choppy the porthole on one side would show nothing but water, the other side, all sky and then 10 seconds later, she would roll and water/sky sides would reverse! Bottles in the bar were flying everyhere, people were seasick all over the place... it was quite the crossing. I didn't get sea sick at all, neither did the Mrs! I think this is a good sign?
Your suggestion of getting someone to help shortlist potential boats sounds great. Is that something that people do for a living or do you typically just find a friend willing to help?
We've been planning this for quite some time, not just 5 months and have been looking at boats (well, on broker websites) for quite some time. I just now figured "Hey why not ask the people that have been in our situation". We're not in a hurry, really, we DO want to get aboard and start living the live-aboard life, but offshore sailing can wait, IF we decide we're not ready for it. As I said in a previous post: we're anxious to get going but but by no means suicidal. We're hoping to be competent enough for coastal sailing when we're done with this class. If that's not the case we'll practice more and even take more classes.
I figured we would not be able to get insurance
right away, although we are hopeful that our class certification
might help. We're going to try and insure the boat, but we're not holding our breaths. We're planning on getting our OUPV license
after we have the year's worth of boat time it requires, do you think that would be enough to convince the insurance
companies we are worthy? (not planning on chartering any time soon by the way, the license
is for future use and for right now (well, in a year) hopefully so we can a) GET insurace and b) hopefully get a decent rate at that)
Mind if I ask how much the delivery
captain charged you for that service
We're located in Colorado... landlocked
So not going to be anyone near us that can take us out for a coastal spin as crew, I'm afraid. Perhaps after we move down to Florida
on our boat hunt we can find someone willing to take us out for a day, who knows! Also, will check out the books, thanks!
We hope to some day feel ready for a journey like that. Thanks for the link.
Well our "no experience required" coastal cruising class uses J/22s for their practical sessions. This is one of the reasons we went with them: give us experience on somewhat larger sailing vessels. We figured learning on something at least somewhat similar in size to what we're planning on buying would be best. Pity there doesn't seem to be any sailing schools using larger cats around here.
Hmm getting the broker/seller to take you out on the boat you're interested in and show you the systems and such is a great idea. And yes, keeping the mrs happy makes any project
SO much easier
Very reassuring to see someone else doing (pretty much) what we are planning and making it work! Finding someone experienced to come along and be a tutor for a while seems to be a recurring theme, and I think it's very sound advice. I just might have the right person(s) for the job, too, if I can convince her/them!
No worries there, I wouldn't know what to do with a project boat! In a way it'd be very educational, but on the other hand I'd like to actually get out there some time before in the next 20 years
Well said, that pretty much sums up my attitude to the whole thing, I KNOW there will be problems, I intend to learn from them, but I will not let the fear of running in to them stop me from doing this.
Actually we don't plan on working, this is our retirement
. But your point about Florida being expensive is well taken. In fact we're just going down there to buy a boat, as it seems that's "the place to be" when buying/selling in the US. So our move to Florida is just temporary: long enough to buy a boat, fix her up, get some experience on her and then we get out of expensive dodge. As for our home port, it's likely to be Portsmouth, NH. Should be considerably cheaper (we hope?) and my wife has relatives close by.
In theory our retirement
fund should last... but we all know how that tends to work out. If the cruising kitty starts looking low we're hoping to do some charter
work to make up the difference, but that's a whole new story and should be many many years down the road, by which time we should be old salts, ready for anything!
Yes, we'll be starting out in J/22s which I guess is a nice middle ground. I don't think I really need to "bring her round to the idea" as we're both very excited about the whole thing already (lucky me!) However, the first night we spend on our new boat (well, new to us...) is now going to be a 5-star candlelit dinner, thanks to you! Awesome Idea!
Thanks a bunch everyone, I'm happy I made that post, you people are great and I got some excellent ideas and advise from you all!