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Old 14-01-2015, 17:01   #61
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

These waves don't look so big....I seem to recall a video where Jessica had a drogue out in some massive seas, but can't find it now.



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These waves don't look so big....I seem to recall a video where Jessica had a drogue out in some massive seas, but can't find it now.



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Don't take this personally but those are big seas and if you were out there I am sure they would have your attention.
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Old 14-01-2015, 17:39   #63
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

I was just agreeing with the thread title....I'm quite sure they were plenty big, and why I posted it.

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...... and then comfort in what regards seamotion will be on the side of the monohull. ...
Wrong. Try sailing on a cat, rather than just continually demonstrating your lack of real knowledge.

DDW on a cruising mono is.... projectile vomiting comes to mind.
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Wrong. Try sailing on a cat, rather than just continually demonstrating your lack of real knowledge.

DDW on a cruising mono is.... projectile vomiting comes to mind.
Do you really believe that all will find a smaller cat more comfortable upwind (that's were both boats are more uncomfortable) than a bigger mono? I had heard many saying that they prefer the motion of a mono, specially if a bigger one, on that sailing position, specially with short steep middle size waves.

Are you sure you never heard that some prefer the motion of a monohull? That's odd. Are you sure I am wrong about this, I mean that not all prefer the motion of a smaller cat over a bigger monohull?
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

Have you ever tried actually discussing what someone has said?
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

Do you really believe that all will find a smaller cat more comfortable upwind (that's were both boats are more uncomfortable) than a bigger mono? I had heard many saying that they prefer the motion of a mono, specially if a bigger one, on that sailing position, specially with short steep middle size waves.

Are you sure you never heard that some prefer the motion of a monohull? That's odd. Are you sure I am wrong about this, I mean that not all prefer the motion of a smaller cat over a bigger monohull? I have owned mono and multi and I sure as hell find a cat more comfortable sailing upwind.

Certainly, I have heard people say that they enjoy the motion of a mono on any sort of reach, but I have never heard anyone say they enjoy the motion of a mono upwind. Perhaps we should clarify the word "enjoy". Certainly a mono can be an 'Exciting" ride upwind, and in that regard enjoyable, but in terms of doing it for any extended period, definitely NOT enjoyable.
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

Don't know what it looks like from the planet Pollux inhabits, but the video was pretty obviously (IMO) of a boat sailing DOWNWIND.


But of course in his unrelenting efforts to turn every single thread on this forum into a multihull bash....
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Don't know what it looks like from the planet Pollux inhabits, but the video
was pretty obviously (IMO) of a boat sailing DOWNWIND.
I think what he was trying to say is that if you were on a mono it would be rolling so much you would not know if you were upwind or downwind.
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A modern light mono with a fat transom (type of Open kind of hull) would not have a problem on the conditions you describe and can go fast on autopilot. Boats with narrow transoms would roll more (even modern ones) and will demand more attention on the wheel and sails.
Such a vessel would have however much more chance of broaching if the helmsman relaxed for a minute.

She did indicate 60knots definitely around 50 and seeing the storm clouds in one shot could have been variable.

Polex, you need to get on some cats. I sure your wife would love it.
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Ok I just thought you were thinking monos were slow or something. look I really like Cats even though I have little actual experience sailing them but when you get a cruising Cat all loaded up for cruising their passage times are around the same time(give or take) as monos. You guys win the battles when the hook goes down, very stable and roomy but the downside is that you automatically become the party boat because you have such wonderful cockpits.
Have to say that little cat was fairly well loaded going by the fuel on the transom and demonstrating and they were doing it comfortably with no drama.
Plenty of other cats do the trip round Australia and most seem to strike some weather coming across the bight in the southern ocean.
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Re: Waves always look small on video...

WOW.... You guys have a lot of problems to do a simple investigation.....

Go to the youtube page of the video and you find this text

Cape Town to Brisbane through the Southern Ocean winter on a Leopard39,
64 days non-stop, 65kts+ winds.
Biggest surf: 34kts


So the winners are those who said 60

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Arenelupiga , I doubt you have any clue about sailing at all just my view of point
i am not great sailor but working towards and enjoying every moment. Maybe my specifics are that I never was mono sailor. Immediately charmed by cats. When sailing mono my heart is empty, maybe same as you when sailing cat. Also my wife is full harted participant of sailing ambitions. Mono sailors have issues in that space, i believe.

Sure monos are better in some situations but surprise surprise, cats can be better in others.

Some people saying cats are no boats, etc, turns out really funny. Polinesians knew better.
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Robert, here's a 'little' multi doing 41 knots and they could be drinking wine





I mean, if were all going to start throwing the crap out there.....
It seems they are also pretty stable here while doing 38K...even if a bit wet



Anyway anybody going to go over 30k on cruising boats. Over 20K is already quite extreme and except on huge boats, normally just some surfs. Between 12 and 20K it is already very good.
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It seems they are also pretty stable here while doing 38K...even if a bit wet

Anyway anybody going to go over 30k on cruising boats. Over 20K is already quite extreme and except on huge boats, normally just some surfs. Between 12 and 20K it is already very good.
I had seen that video - absolutely bad ass sailing machine. I would love to be crew on that boat for a day just experiencing it pound through the water. Maybe we should both stop bashing boats and find more good video's of them sailing in weather.
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