Views on Tasman Elite 12

[Moonos]

Originally Posted by amandasearle

Factor - where is the Rogers
40 'Rush hour' being advertised?

rogers 40 rush hour
Rogers 41ft Catamaran: Sailing Catamaran for Sale | Cedar Epoxy Sail Boats | Boats Online | Queensland (Qld) - Manly Qld

[Seaslug Caravan]

Try the chincogan 40 at Airlie.

moulded glass boat.
Used Grainger 40 Chincogan Sailing Catamaran for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub

No idea as to the condition but have been aboard both Windy Spirit and Kinetic Energy.

Lovely examples in their prime.

[Factor]

If I remember correctly Konan (the advertised boat above) was the first of the Chincogan 40s. Excellent boats, Windy Spirit is on the market as well, but for a lot more than Konan.

I know the broker (John Moore) handling rush hour, very decent chap, very reliable.

Rush Hoir would be far and away the quickest boat of this bunch, but not the flashest.

Just remember its your money - not mine

[amandasearle]

ahhh - that Grainger, Konan looks great but I see it is sold

[Moonos]

Originally Posted by amandasearle

ahhh - that Grainger, Konan looks great but I see it is sold

They always look better after they are sold.
Check out the split system air conditioning unit in the cockpit!

[Mirage Gecko]

Originally Posted by amandasearle

ahhh - that Grainger, Konan looks great but I see it is sold

Pretty sure I saw it heading north through the Hinchinbrook about a month ago.

[tuskie]

Originally Posted by amandasearle

And while I am asking all these questions - what are peoples views on hulls that are composite or GRP - such as the Grainger 40 - strip plank western red cedar with epxy and fibreglass composite?

All Grainger designs that are home built or small boat yard built will have some sort of core between the fibreglass "skins" of the hull. It is usually Western Red Cedar, balsa or foam. If you prefer, as I do, a hull with solid (uncored) fibreglass below the waterline then you will have a hard time finding this in an amateur or small yard custom build. You'll probably have to buy a production boat.

It's good to get forum type advise on prospective boat designs, but also trust your own observations. Make those brokers work for their commission and get them to take you out on a choppy windy day. Steer upwind into the chop and see what you think of the comfort level. Could you put up with that for hours or days on end? Does it sail easily? Or do you need half a dozen gym junkies to raise the sails. Is the deck uncluttered? Can you move around those decks easily or will you trip over lines led around the cabin? Crawl around the boat. Check the fluid levels in the engines. Do you need to be a double jointed acrobat? Are the engines easily accessible or do you need to go in through the shower cubicle or disassemble a rear bunk to get there? In short, is it liveable for YOU?

Lastly, no matter what boat, get a good surveyor to check it out. They will find things you don't. And keep some money up your sleeve to rectify the issues that they miss. Happy hunting!

[Factor]

A well built WRC/epoxy boat is probably the best boat you can get in a Multi, up there with a foam/kevlar/carbon/epoxy build. Challenge is as always understanding which ones are well built. Have a read of Chris Whites excellent book, The Cruising Multihull, to get a good basic understanding of build types.

There is an excellent multihull surveyor in Brisbane who is the only man I use when its my money.

[amandasearle]

Thanks for all that advice. Great stuff! For those interested, the Tasman on auction went for $129,000. She was a little shabby so although cheap, a lot of work needed. I spotted leaky Windows which had been messily sealed too. The one I looked at with the extended deck was lovely but only had a clearance at the back of the deck of 35cm above the water! The one on auction was 46cm. I think way too low to give a pleasant ride. Saw a Simpson 43 for $249k that I wouldn't have paid 180k for! Still on the hunt...

[Moonos]

$130k not bad but were the bidders keen? It might have well gone to $150k with another bidder you never really know.

I like galley down on a 40 foot, better use of space I reckon but most production boats are galley up, but Tasman are a bit low..

[amandasearle]

Yeah - there were three or four bidders and it was a struggle to even get to 130K. Really like the layout of the tasman but yip, def too low I reckon