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Old 26-01-2008, 13:01   #16
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Wouldn't it be difficult to go cruising in a boat without a enclosed salon / living area? It just doesn't seem to have the living area or storage space required for a long term live aboard. It appears to be designed as a very light and fast daysailor with a couple of bunks tossed in for good measure. I don't think anyone would do long ocean passages on this boat.
Rick,

taking into account the cruising area and planned crew size of only two I think it would be very possible to use this cat for a longer cruise, readily and sensibly equipped for the task. To me she has all you really need for temperate climate cruising.

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Old 26-01-2008, 15:43   #17
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Schoonderdog I am incredibly impressed! When you refer to the St. Francis 44 easily reaching high-teens are you actually talking about one that is (reasonably) laden for distance cruising and is not surfing? If so it is very close in performance to a lightly laden Outremer and, as you say, has a huge advantage in space/accomodation. Gets my vote as none of the boats listed on the original post will do much better than half of that in similar circumstances.

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Old 26-01-2008, 20:15   #18
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In the high teens is the extreme that many owners have seen on tranoceanic passages. So yes they would be laden and either way far faster than I personally would want to go. A friend who is a yacht designer was seeing that their speeds during a Cape to Rio race were about the same as a farr 40. I personally think though that the extremely high speeds are not as critical as good speeds in low winds, which is the majority of passages. I do know that I can do around 6 knots in 8 knots of wind, which to me is excellent. If the boat has narrow hulls, and the st francis is 11 or 12 to 1, and has a lot of sail area to displacement, which in the st francis is 1200 sq ft of sail pushing a 15,280 lb boat (optimal light ship displacement), it means you will be moving very well. And yes, there are catamarans today which are literally twice the weight of our boat and less sail area. Because our hulls are so narrow though, we definitely have to be very careful in weight, we don't carry a generator (we are entirely solar powered), we carry a light RIB, we always watch our waterline.
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Old 26-01-2008, 20:42   #19
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this is a quote from another st francis just completing her circumnavigation

"As we are completing the final leg of our circumnavigation, I'd like
to add to this discussion. The St. Francis boats have been exemplary
in performance: Our cruising speed is more than 75% of the wind
speed; we've never suffered system failure or breakage, other than
acts of nature (like lightening strikes); and she handles beautifully
at sea. "

They state their reason for their success is simple, not overloading her.
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Old 28-01-2008, 18:56   #20
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Here are 2 MANTA 40 just below 250k.

YachtWorld.com Boats and Yachts for Sale
Just one - they are the same boat.
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Old 29-01-2008, 02:25   #21
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Ups, didnīt look that close, as I am not looking (anymore) for a MANTA.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:29   #22
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Lagoon 42TPI

I have to throw the Lagoon 42 TPI in the ring, as we've been saiing ours in the Caribbean for the last year. My girlfriend / crew didn't know how to sail when we started, so it was essentially a quasi single handed affair. The boat is sturdy, comfortable and reliable. Perhaps I'm a bit biased too. And yes, she's for sale, as we have finished our planned year and now have to go back to the mainland to our jobs (ugh). Website to see her....lagoon42.com

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Old 09-02-2008, 14:05   #23
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Check out ebay. There is a 2007 Mahe 36 for $250k. bidding ends Feb 11th.
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Old 13-02-2008, 12:53   #24
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Old 14-02-2008, 00:40   #25
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I know you didnt have Prouts in the list but fyi we have decided to downsize for our use is local only, so have listed our Prout 39 on the local trade website.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-140878623.htm

Ideal for someone wanting to fly to NZ and carry on cruising the Pacific and beyond. You would miss out on Panama crossing etc but Pacific and AUS has some very nice cruising areas. The boat is pretty much ready for offshore. Price is in NZD, be a lot less US.
We will down size to a Prout 34 or a local design....so anyone out there with a Prout 34 heading to NZ, AND wanting to upgrade!

Some food for thought anyway.
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Old 15-02-2008, 17:11   #26
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HELLO IMAGINE2FROLIC
I am shopping for a cold molded cat, custom boats mostly.
Is your simpson made from epoxy cold molded?
Was it built in St Martin?
Are you happy with the performance, like speed and pointing ability?
What is the weight?
She is a very good looking vessel.
Thanks for your help.

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Here's the nicest one I've seen for a while... http://flica.blogspot.com/ Around US$150k in the Caribbean, ready to go anywhere
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Old 18-02-2008, 17:25   #29
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Hi Jeannius,

That's a real compliment your giving me there! I'm proud to hear that my catamaran Ocean Link is considered one of the nicest in the market.

OCEAN.......LINK

Anybody having questions please send a message to leonoor.werk@gmail.com

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Hi Jeannius,

That's a real compliment your giving me there! I'm proud to hear that my catamaran Ocean Link is considered one of the nicest in the market.

OCEAN.......LINK

Anybody having questions please send a message to leonoor.werk@gmail.com

Fair winds to all
I've always liked the Flica ( I watched a home builder put one together over a number of years) and your's looks particularly nice.

Good luck with the sale.
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