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Old 16-12-2012, 15:06   #151
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There's another Liahona on the east coast US - in yacht world, without the built in dodger.


1987 Custom Simpson Liahona trimaran Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
This is still for sale? It really looks horrid from the back and has a small cockpit. I guess you could cure both problems by turning the aft cabin into more cockpit? I still think its the best bargain I have seen in a while and I would have considered it if it was on the west coast.

As for cruising tris in general. I love the idea and would have one designed and built for me if money was no object. It seems like many people in this thread are very keen on super fast tris with next to no cruising luxuries. But why does it have to be all or nothing?

What would be wrong with a tri that has decent space and comfort if its still much faster and more fun to sail than a cat? For my requirements to be met it would have to have similar space and comfort to a mono (IE less than a cat), but be faster and sail better than a roomaran.

I think the hideous Neel meets these requirements but its just too ugly and I think it has gone overboard with cramming stuff inside. I think if they designed a nicer looking cabin structure and better cockpit it might be a nice boat. They claim an average of 10K over an Atlantic crossing. That appears to be about twice as fast as what most roomaran owners I have met claim their boats sail at on average.
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Old 19-12-2012, 07:54   #152
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For me, the ultimate trimaran cruising boat would be a 15m Dragonfly. I realize that Quorning Boats do not make anything quite that large, but perhaps someday they might.
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Old 19-12-2012, 08:35   #153
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That would be an awesome boat indeed. Cost would be around 1.2M! I'm trying so hard to find my ultimate dream boat to build one day. I want it to be a tri but I keep coming back to a ULDB for cost reasons Just need to win the lotto. But I guess that will never happen either since I don't play
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Old 20-12-2012, 02:26   #154
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Just need to win the lotto. But I guess that will never happen either since I don't play
Lotto is a tax on people who don't understand maths.
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Old 20-12-2012, 06:47   #155
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My 38' Harris and 41' Condor are the two best deals in the US at $25 for 1/3 partnership, your location. Both boats have over $20k spent on them in the last 500 miles. multihuler@aol.com


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Old 20-12-2012, 07:12   #156
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My 38' Harris and 41' Condor are the two best deals in the US at $25 for 1/3 partnership, your location.
Might that be twenty-five thousand dollars, not twenty-five dollars?
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Old 20-12-2012, 07:15   #157
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Nice video, where was this taken? Your Cross looks great.. Michael..
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My 38' Harris and 41' Condor are the two best deals in the US at $25k for 1/3 partnership, your location. Both boats have over $20k spent on them in the last 500 miles. multihuler@aol.com



$25k buy-in and will include a buy-out both ways,east coast/Bahamas
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For me, the ultimate trimaran cruising boat would be a 15m Dragonfly. I realize that Quorning Boats do not make anything quite that large, but perhaps someday they might.
This one folds;
Home | UltraLuxum Yachting - So different, exceptional and luxurious yacht design

It is a bit bigger then 15m...

Dragonfly needs to build quite a few boats to breakeven,I believe that the B/E point for the 1200 was some 15 units;
http://www.dragonfly.dk/pdf-archive/...4-2000_ger.pdf

do not know whether you read German but is says so on page 1;

"Immerhin......Schiff"

perhaps in a different(better economic) time we'll see the Dragonfly 50,btw my dreamboat is a Dragonfly 60 with 2 masts("Beowulf style rig" from Steve Dashew)

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Old 20-12-2012, 09:35   #160
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Too big for me! If I bought that, I wouldn't have any money left over to feed all the Russian bow babes who would accumulate like barnacles all over the deck.

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Dragonfly needs to build quite a few boats to breakeven,I believe that the B/E point for the 1200 was some 15 units
I'm surprised the amortization number is only 15. That gives me hope for a Dragonfly 50. :-)

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I do, with difficulty. I'll read that article. Thanks!

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Good luck with that! ;-)
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I like the Contour 50. Demountable and you can put the entire boat on one big rig truck if you need to get from one coast to the other in the US. Pretty fast, too!
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Trimaran Buddy.... John Patterson Design...

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... Designer John Patterson, apparently working on another, larger design, 50 something whereas Buddy is 44'.
Beautiful lines... I fell over the pics you have shown in this forum Trimaran Buddy...

Steve (or anybody else here knowing the answer): Do you know what happened with this boat ???
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For me, the ultimate trimaran cruising boat would be a 15m Dragonfly. I realize that Quorning Boats do not make anything quite that large, but perhaps someday they might.
Keep an eye to future releases from Dragonfly. I'm sure anything they do will be impressive. I love my Dragonfly 1200, but don't see myself going larger mainly due to $ constraints and maintenance.
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Old 03-03-2016, 14:30   #164
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I bought my first trimaran recently. A very beautifully built 45'4" Horstman tristar. I read on a lot of forums how many don't like the look of a Horstman, and how they're more like "room-a-rans". That's fine by me. Keeps the prices below market for a given boat of comparable size in volume.

My Horstman Tristar has a 20+ yr solid cruising track record and built by a very intelligent man who just thought of just of everything needed for extended cruising. That was important to me because I wanted a boat that had been put to the test. I spent 6 years looking for the right trimaran. I found many and flew all over the world to view them but one requirement was a tri with a foam core and those are hard to find so I could never really find the right one. This one is foam sandwich and includes an extended pilot house hard top over the wings, which almost no Horstmans have. That translates to dry (and flat) sailing no matter the conditions, and also allows for 8 solar panels (mounted to the hardtop roof) and two wind generators (mounted to the adjacent hard top aluminum framing) for total energy autonomy.

The only thing I added was a bow thruster but that was only because my boat slip is a super tight fit and any prevailing wind makes the exercise of getting docked too risky.
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Old 27-11-2016, 12:41   #165
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Curious why there was not any mention of John Marples work? His CC boats seem to fit the bill for a good compromise cruising tri. His designs seem to fit the bill for seaworthy tris with good load carrying and a descent turn of speed.

Forgive me if it was mentioned and I missed it. Skimmed through the thread fairly quickly.
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