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Old 02-12-2015, 15:31   #3316
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Here is a photo from our first race of the season a week ago.11 boats total finished 5 overall weather was great in low 80s.next race in 2 weeks.
Is that a 37?
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Old 02-12-2015, 16:43   #3317
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I received the following PM last week between WiFi hotspots on my trip down to Vero Beach.


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Hi Boatguy30,

I wanted to ask you about how you feel about the Woods designs compared to a Searunner. I actually found the Woods web pages a few months ago as part of the my research, and had thought that the Vardo was the best for my cruising plans. I think Richard is using the pictures of your build to illustrate it even.

But I tend to like trimarans better than cats, and noticed the many happy SR owners. So now I am torn. I think I saw a post where you were mentioning the Vardo takes less material to build, goes faster and carries more, so maybe that is the answer.

A modernized SR, with all the improvements people have made over the years, would be very nice. So I am having a hard time deciding. Any thoughts?

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Old 02-12-2015, 16:59   #3318
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Keith-
the only "modernized" searunner I'm aware of is a SR 40 in Seattle area that is open wing with a set of Kurt Hughes designed amas. I really like the SR 37 especially for a family if you have one built from plans sold after 1978 as John Marples tells me the plans were changed then to reflect the SR 34 main hull improvements.


I had written previously on this thread that I felt the Vardo was a modernization of the Searunner concept. Some didn't agree with that, but anyone that has been on of better yet sailed on my boat could care less about that and want to buy of build one themselves.


On a side note we were sailing the Indian River just inshore of Cape Canaveral Thanksgiving day. There is no tide or current in this area, but the wind was gusting to perhaps 30 knots maybe a bit more. We were generally beam reaching, but I had the mainsail just a bit overtrimmed as in gust the wind goes forward as apparent builds.


Long story short, slightly over canvassed; cruising and maybe 60% payload we did 14knots in flat water. Autopilot steering, kids playing cards at the saloon table with my wife. They did poke their heads out anew times to check the speed! Was also towing our new 11' cat dinghy. Had several bursts into the 12-13 knot range. Windward hull was lifting somewhat, but far from flying. As the water was shallow I was happy to push things somewhat as a recovery would have been easy. But honestly, it seemed very in control.
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Old 02-12-2015, 17:06   #3319
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I received the following PM last week between WiFi hotspots on my trip down to Vero Beach.


Opinions on Vardo vs Searunner


Hi Boatguy30,

I wanted to ask you about how you feel about the Woods designs compared to a Searunner. I actually found the Woods web pages a few months ago as part of the my research, and had thought that the Vardo was the best for my cruising plans. I think Richard is using the pictures of your build to illustrate it even.

But I tend to like trimarans better than cats, and noticed the many happy SR owners. So now I am torn. I think I saw a post where you were mentioning the Vardo takes less material to build, goes faster and carries more, so maybe that is the answer.

A modernized SR, with all the improvements people have made over the years, would be very nice. So I am having a hard time deciding. Any thoughts?

- Keith
A few of the trimaran designs by John Marples were considered by Jim Brown himself to be "modernized" Searunners.
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Old 02-12-2015, 17:22   #3320
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I took his question to be about SR trimirans as he seems to be interested in an apples to apples comparison of the 2 different boats built basically exactly the same way with roughly the same materials. Flat panel sheet ply.
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Old 02-12-2015, 19:02   #3321
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Magentawave yes she is a 37 she does pretty good for a 40 y old boat.In 1978 the 2nd owner entered in the single handed farallones race and finished 3rd out of 58 boats.The boat was called triessence and was entered in the first single handed transpac but didn't start and I haven't been able to find out what happened.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:17   #3322
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I received the following PM last week between WiFi hotspots on my trip down to Vero Beach.


Opinions on Vardo vs Searunner


Hi Boatguy30,

I wanted to ask you about how you feel about the Woods designs compared to a Searunner. I actually found the Woods web pages a few months ago as part of the my research, and had thought that the Vardo was the best for my cruising plans. I think Richard is using the pictures of your build to illustrate it even.

But I tend to like trimarans better than cats, and noticed the many happy SR owners. So now I am torn. I think I saw a post where you were mentioning the Vardo takes less material to build, goes faster and carries more, so maybe that is the answer.

A modernized SR, with all the improvements people have made over the years, would be very nice. So I am having a hard time deciding. Any thoughts?

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I agree on the tri being preferable to a cat, maybe just in my warped mind. Pitch poling seems less likely, down side is beam and less interior space in most cases.
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Old 13-12-2015, 18:40   #3323
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Does anyone know where I can find the line drawings for John Marples CC35 center cockpit tri? I have looked everyone online, including Google images, and can't find them.

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Old 13-12-2015, 18:48   #3324
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I think on marples site their are ancrw drawings. Interior wise it is between a SR 31 nada a 34. Probably closer in payload to a 31 especially with an inboard.
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Old 13-12-2015, 20:13   #3325
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Thanks, but no, there is nothing on John's site. John is definitely old school.
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Old 13-12-2015, 21:17   #3326
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Magentawave, I've got a set of plans. I imagine I could photo a page or 2. John sells study plans for a nominal fee. Anything specific you want to look at?

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Old 14-12-2015, 05:11   #3327
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Ok, I think there is an Australian agent that has more on their site.
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Old 14-12-2015, 05:38   #3328
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Does anyone know where I can find the line drawings for John Marples CC35 center cockpit tri? I have looked everyone online, including Google images, and can't find them.

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John Marples will sell individual drawings on request. I have purchased a few from him and the prices are very reasonable. Just send him an email.
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Old 14-12-2015, 10:09   #3329
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Magentawave, I've got a set of plans. I imagine I could photo a page or 2. John sells study plans for a nominal fee. Anything specific you want to look at?

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That would be awesome if you get a chance, please and thank you. Perhaps you could post them here? I'm interested in seeing line drawings similar to the ones below.
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Try this, I'm not sure wether the details will come through well.

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