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Old 25-02-2017, 10:34   #61
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Re: The Reason People Are Moving Away From Monohulls

In the real boating world no one cares if you’re in a new multi million dollar cat or an old, inexpensive leaky teaky (like mine). All that really matters is that you are out there.

If you’re interesting, kind and open — as most real cruisers are — then we’ll get along fine. If not, one of us will up anchor and move on. No biggie.
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I don't see it like this at all. These arguments remind me more of the skiing vs snowboarder conflict...you know, classic elegance vs knuckle-dragger
I'm just telling you what I see and hear while living aboard and cruising for the last 9yrs, your experience may be different. If you think class envy doesn't exist in the cruising community...I have an ocean front slip in Arizona for you cheap.
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I am leery of a boat with an escape hatch on her bottom and twice as wide as a "normal" slip. Renting a cat on a lovely vacation cruise in the BVI is fine but owning one, nope!
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I love Gunboats. Would I have one? Not in a million years. Too much fuss in the upkeep, too much month left at the end of your money... and i have no use for one in my lifestyle.

Each person uses a vessel in the manner that they want.. Rich lives on his 50footer mono, sails from time to time and is working for another grand adventure. Works for him.

A gunboat shimmers money and sheds it like a skin, You have to be in the income class where the maintenance doesnt affect your wealth in any way... It affects mine just by looking at the photos.

Multihulls are here to stay. They are not a fad, not a luxury, not unsafe and perfectly adequate for their brief, that is, to be a comfortable waterhome and transport.

Their cruising history is as safe, if not safer than monos..

All things being equal, great for families, for spacious living, for stable riding and for settled anchoring.

Some want, most want.... some dont.

I wonder what would outsell, a good 45 foot mono and a good 45 multi if both were priced at $150K... new.
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I wonder what would outsell, a good 45 foot mono and a good 45 multi if both were priced at $150K... new.
Bingo....we all know the answer to that Q.....
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Bingo....we all know the answer to that Q.....
Sometimes you have to see it in black and white...
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If you think class envy doesn't exist in the cruising community...I have an ocean front slip in Arizona for you cheap.

I'm sure class envy exists. I've had several guys with "Big" 50-60 foot boats tied next to mine at various guest docks, envy my care free lifestyle. They only had a week or two vacation. Mine was open ended. yeppers I would not want their life.
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Sometimes you have to see it in black and white...
I prefer Black and Yellow..
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I'm sure class envy exists. I've had several guys with "Big" 50-60 foot boats tied next to mine at various guest docks, envy my care free lifestyle. They only had a week or two vacation. Mine was open ended. yeppers I would not want their life.
I love seeing guys in beat up old tshirts with holes in them that say "My life is better than your vacation"; in fact I have one myself.

There is another thread asking the question 'how to know when to give up on your boat'; and my answer to that question is when your boat stops being fun.

And that is the reason I have a catamaran. And as soon as it stops being fun I will stop having a catamaran.
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Re: The Reason People Are Moving Away From Monohulls

My first thought after reading, "The Reason People Are Moving Away From Monohulls," was, are they really? Assuming it is a correct statement, and most of us know what assumes means, I can only say why I am not one of them aside from the probably higher expenses related to the width. Take a look at post #51, I've been there while I was a guest and the owner was having fun. Frightened the stuffings out of me. Yeah, I've done it or risked doing it for the thrill on a Hobie 16 and a Prindle 18, but that is far, far different than having it happen on, say, an old Prout design. More comfortable on a day-today basis, yes. If OP's statement is correct, and there is a single identifiable biggest reason, this is probably the reason. It could also relate to widespread exposure via charters. But safety in tough situations, I do not think so, at least not for me.

BTW, With the sailing I do now, I'd perhaps be happy with a cat if I could afford the extra expense (I am talking expense, not initial cost). But I still have hopes (or should I say dreams?) of convincing my wife and going off on long voyages on what we (I) have or even could have.
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what ever the 'home' comforts of a catamaran, I know which I would rather be in if confronted with a survival storm situation....'nuff said.
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I personally prefer the mono, but don't denigrate those who like multi's. For me, though, "reading" wind strength and direction comes naturally with the angle of heel.
On my cat, the knotmeter gives a pretty good reading of wind strength and direction. [emoji6]
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I am leery of a boat with an escape hatch on her bottom and twice as wide as a "normal" slip. Renting a cat on a lovely vacation cruise in the BVI is fine but owning one, nope!
On the flip side, why don't mono's have automatic air bags to prevent sinking?
To compare that with your point, I see that as mono manufacturers collective oversight.

At least, mono owners get half off on slip charges for using those skinny slips.

I rarely go into a marina, but as of yet I have never been charged double rate. The marina just finds a spot.
That was quite interesting last summer when we stayed overnight in a crowded marina in Ladysmith BC.
It took the marina operator a bit to answer if we would be able to find a spot.
He sent out a guy in a small boat with a measuring tape!
He then asked me how maneuverable the boat was or something like that.
I assured him it was not a problem as I sail through our skinny jetty entrance all the time.

It turned out that we had to navigate through an opening of 26 feet between a piling and a floating log breakwater.
I'm glad there was no crosswind ! Even with the boards up, low tide only gave us about an extra foot under the hull.
Needless to say, we were WAAY in the back with almost no room to turn around.

You should have seen the looks on people's faces as we sneaked into the back.
They were looking at us as if to say, "What in the heck are you thinking? You'll never fit, and even if you do, you'll go aground !"
We did and we didn't respectively.

We're 25 foot beam and 1 1/2 foot draft, boards up.
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what ever the 'home' comforts of a catamaran, I know which I would rather be in if confronted with a survival storm situation....'nuff said.
Yeah, in that situation I would prefer to be in my land house. That said, I've done some Gulf of Mexico racing, all in multihulls. And in only one instance of racing, seen a loss of life. It was associated with a monohull that lost its keel during the night, and one of the crew members drowned in the cabin. Weather wasn't even that bad.
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as for the legend of mugs/beers staying put.. folks who say this have never been in a sea bigger than 1metre.. things fly around if one gets in a decent seaway.. but.. its a nice yarn to tell the mono guests invited over for a drink..
I own a mono because I can't afford a Tiki 38..
35-40 knot wind for 4 days, 3-5 metre beam seas, and we could still leave our coffee cups on the table. They wouldn't spill, but they'd slide off after about 5 minutes. Rubber placemats solved that.
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