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Old 26-06-2008, 15:22   #196
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Until then remind Brian that the first "free" one is mine!
Now, now!

I'm not looking for some kind of handout, here. I very clearly stated that the cat would be in exchange for services rendered. I am insulted, sir, that you would accuse me of attempting to make a grab at a free boat.

Insulted.

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Old 28-06-2008, 03:34   #197
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When you want a fast affordable catamaran, why not have a look at brazapicatamarans?? becauseo of there new productionfacilities they are able to deliver in a reasonable time at a resonable cost, and they are fast.
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Old 28-06-2008, 04:15   #198
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Old 28-06-2008, 05:02   #199
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When you want a fast affordable catamaran, why not have a look at brazapicatamarans?? becauseo of there new productionfacilities they are able to deliver in a reasonable time at a resonable cost, and they are fast.
The owner of a Brazapi I just spoke to said that his catamaran was delayed a little over 12 months before it was launched (he took delivery 4 days ago). I don't know about you, but to me that's not reasonable.
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Old 28-06-2008, 09:46   #200
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Well, there's typical, and then there's fast. From what little I can see of the Brazapi, it is a pretty typical mid-size cruising catamaran. The hulls are not especially narrow, for example, as evidenced by comparing the deck width of a hull to a berth length, using their sketch.
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Old 28-06-2008, 12:04   #201
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Now if you want to see a real work of art and design, look at this boat built by the sons of Schionning who designed the Waterline 1480 and built this big old heavy and slow 49 foot, 6.7 ton one for there personal craft. Of course it isn't as fast as a fully loaded FastCat, its best 24 hour run was only 353 nautical miles and it's load carrying capability is less than 25% of a FastCat, but it sure is pretty.



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The carbon wing mast is a large contributing factor to the boat's sailing ability. With its aerodynamic shape and the rotation ability, mainsail performance is greatly improved. The boat is lighter overall and travels flatter in the water due to less weight aloft. The spreader-less design reduces aerodynamic drag, weight aloft and tangles with halyards and sails.

On light days, if the wind is aft of the beam, with full screecher and main she has achieved 9 knots in 6 knots of true breeze. Most other cruising yachts are motoring in these conditions.

When the wind is up a little, she sails dry and flat, effortlessly averaging 200 mile days on passages and making short coastal trips a breeze, with minimal sail handling.

In a good breeze she will excite hardened racers, frequently sailing in the 20's. Her best logged 24 hours is a staggering 352 nautical miles of the Tasman sea , sailed on autopilot with hot meals and children sharing the watch.

Although Barrocka has a storm sail system which includes a forth reefing point in the main, it has never been used. In a gale she will sail with all sail safely packed away, purely on her 9 sq m of mast area and a rag of jib unfurled. Zero sail handling in heavy conditions greatly adds to the comfort, safety and confidence of a family crew.
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Old 28-06-2008, 12:54   #202
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What a beautiful piece of sculpture that boat is!
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Old 28-06-2008, 14:10   #203
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Pretty.

But could you do something about the way the pictures come out.

It messes up everything.

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Old 28-06-2008, 14:50   #204
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Pretty.

But could you do something about the way the pictures come out.

It messes up everything.

Thanks.

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Old 28-06-2008, 15:08   #205
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Your posts with photo's are much wider than the actual page.

It's no surprise that a 50' boat is better looking than a 40 footer, given that both need to have similar amounts of headroom.
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Old 28-06-2008, 15:29   #206
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[QUOTE=44'cruisingcat;176921]Your posts with photo's are much wider than the actual page.

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They aren't on any of my screens. What browers are you using and how do you have your preferences set? My computer displays fits all the photos onto the screen fine. Are you using a very small screen or portable?
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Old 28-06-2008, 16:28   #207
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I use IE and a normal desktop screen, nevertheless you are the only one producing this "superwide delivery"!?
Any IT specialist for a solution of this phenomena?
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Old 28-06-2008, 16:54   #209
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Now if you want to see a real work of art and design, look at this boat built by the sons of Schionning who designed the Waterline 1480 and built this big old heavy and slow 49 foot, 6.7 ton one for there personal craft.
While I agree that it has a superb finish, this is not a boat I find ideal. I'd like a galley up and I think the salon is poorly utilized by having half or no back-rests on the sides.
I have to admit that the hulls look very sleek and sexy, but everything comes at a price.
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The average speed over ground in a direkt line was 8.81 knots however we did not sail in a direct line from cape town to Miami the cored milage was 18 % higher than the direct routing or ad 18 % to the 8.81 and we get the true cruising speed.
From Miami to the Azores we cruised an average of 12.6 knots with favorable winds while from the Azores to Cherbourg in France we only did 6.5 knots per hour on one engine since there was no wind for 8 days.
From Cherbourg to Ijmuiden ( the entrance to Amsterdam) we averaged 15.6 knots with 26 knots of 140 degrees
This Fastcat was loaded to the maximum of 13250 kilo,s since it was a test.

Greetings and happy sailing

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I find it telling that despite being faced with your own log for the trip, you still maintain that you had an average speed of 8.81 knots, when in fact your own notes in the log claim an average of 6.95 knots over 3608 Nm in 519 hours.

Why did you remove the log from your site, when not much else gets removed? I might me suspicious, but I'm getting more sceptical about your claims as you lose credibility every time you get caught embellishing the truth.

How many other "facts" about your boats and methods have you embellished?

I'm sure you do many great things, and I have no doubt that you are very focused on trying to improve your boats, I just feel a need to react when your salesmanship goes into overspeed, and the truth starts suffering.

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