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Old 10-04-2018, 04:45   #31
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Re: Telling Stories about length

If I'm trying to impress someone, I have my wife do heal-toe to count off how many feet it is.

If the marina questions it, I do the heal-toe and suddenly the boat is half the length.

Hardly a new issue and most manufacturers have long since (as in decades ago) given up on the model number being the exact length.
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Old 16-04-2018, 18:12   #32
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OK, group....here's my question. I have a 1999 Leopard 45, which is actually 44' 9". For those who know, the Leopard 47 is about two feet longer, but actually a little shorter than 47 feet. I have wanted to extend my sugar scoops a bit, but not two feet. So, recently, while repairing some Irma storm damage to the transoms, I lengthened them 20" to 46' 5".

Friends think I should call her a 47, but not only is she not 47 feet, there are some internal differences between the 45 and the 47. Not many, but anyone with one or the other will know the difference. My boat is NOT a 47. But, neither is she a 45, any longer (pardon the pun). The Leopard 46, exactly the same length, is a completely different boat. So, she is not a Leopard 46. Any suggestions? I have thought of a Leopard 14 meter, which is almost exactly correct, but most Americans will do the conversion incorrectly (one on this thread already has) and will think she is 42 feet, and yes, there is such a thing as a Leopard 42.

I am thinking of Leopard 45 XL. Or Leopard 45 XT. Or forgetting about it....but I am in the charter business, and length matters!! Ideas welcome.....
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Old 16-04-2018, 18:14   #33
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OK, group....here's my question. I have a 1999 Leopard 45, which is actually 44' 9". For those who know, the Leopard 47 is about two feet longer, but actually a little shorter than 47 feet. I have wanted to extend my sugar scoops a bit, but not two feet. So, recently, while repairing some Irma storm damage to the transoms, I lengthened them 20" to 46' 5".

Friends think I should call her a 47, but not only is she not 47 feet, there are some internal differences between the 45 and the 47. Not many, but anyone with one or the other will know the difference. My boat is NOT a 47. But, neither is she a 45, any longer (pardon the pun). The Leopard 46, exactly the same length, is a completely different boat. So, she is not a Leopard 46. Any suggestions? I have thought of a Leopard 14 meter, which is almost exactly correct, but most Americans will do the conversion incorrectly (one on this thread already has) and will think she is 42 feet, and yes, there is such a thing as a Leopard 42.

I am thinking of Leopard 45 XL. Or Leopard 45 XT. Or forgetting about it....but I am in the charter business, and length matters!! Ideas welcome.....


An extended Leopard 45 because that’s what she is?
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Old 16-04-2018, 18:21   #34
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My Rafiki “37” is only 36’ 9”. Where’d my 3” go .

If these manufacturers were really smart they’d go the other way. Think of the savings at the marina dock .
LOL.....I little thing called "shrinkage" happens when you get in cold water!
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Old 16-04-2018, 19:33   #35
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I've wonder the same thing in reverse. Boats with tenders hanging on davits, swim platforms or bow sprits. I guess it depends on the dock master.
My boat is a Westsail 32, with a bowsprit and a boomkin. I tell them.....

'....The LOA is 32 feet. The sparred length is 39 feet. The waterline length is 27.5 feet.'

They often ask why they need to know the waterline length. I tell them it's because when they paint the bottom I'll try to talk them into basing the charges on the waterline length. "Fat chance" they say.
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Old 17-04-2018, 08:49   #36
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LOL.....I little thing called "shrinkage" happens when you get in cold water!
… and I’m always sailing in cold waters .

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My boat is a Westsail 32, with a bowsprit and a boomkin. I tell them.....

'....The LOA is 32 feet. The sparred length is 39 feet. The waterline length is 27.5 feet.'

They often ask why they need to know the waterline length. I tell them it's because when they paint the bottom I'll try to talk them into basing the charges on the waterline length. "Fat chance" they say.
In truth, if you add in my Rafiki's boomkin, with windvane and small anchor overhang, I'm probably over 40’. But as far as marinas are concerned, I'm definitely 37 feet .
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Old 17-04-2018, 23:08   #37
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We seem to have one of those missing 'feet'.

L450 is actually 46' long.
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Old 17-04-2018, 23:40   #38
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from lagoon 400 to lagoon 40

length from 11.97m to 11.74m

width 7.25m to 6.76m

weight 10.350 T to 11 T

mainsail area 60.6m2 to 47.5m2

jib area 35m2 to 33.8m2

so new lagoon heavier, substantially smaller and less sail.

My wild guess, price has not dropped.

Lets give proper name to Stories about length = INFLATION!
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A guy that can afford a 25' boat I can see his concern about paying for 6" more of less. A guy with a 45' boat?
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