Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-09-2016, 02:24   #31
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Sweden
Posts: 8
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

This is a fantastic opportunity for the La Vaga couple, I'm very happy for them!

It's also sure to "expose" those who can't contain their jealousy and suddenly can't be happy for these guys just because their boat happens to be worth more. If someone has a $700k boat in your anchorage and they invite you over for beers, do you decline because their boat is "worth too much"? As long as the episodes continue being about the couple, their adventures and lives, what's the problem?

In regards to "selling out" I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. Simply the fact that they have accepted a boat at a reduced (or no) price from the manufacturer doesn't make them "sellouts". If every episode goes from being about their cruising lifestyle to being nothing but a feature on the boat, then it's a different story. That said, I doubt that will happen.

Fair winds guys, no matter if your boat is worth $10,000 or $20,000,000!
__________________

__________________
P.Eriksson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 02:56   #32
CF Adviser
 
Pelagic's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 5,507
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

"Reality" used to mean, something was "Real" and not a production for marketing purposes.

Nothing personal, but I find these vblog and reality show productions just boring after about the 3rd episode.
__________________

__________________
Pelagic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 03:03   #33
Registered User
 
Sulaire's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Planet earth
Boat: Hans Christian 41
Posts: 176
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

We did share an anchorage with them a while back and met them briefly, they came across as very nice genuine people who are enjoying life to the max, and good on them.

What they have achieved is fantastic, it goes to show good things come to good people who follow their dreams on their own terms.
__________________
Sulaire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 03:25   #34
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2015
Boat: Dix 38 pilothouse
Posts: 114
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Quote:
Originally Posted by funjohnson View Post
Wow... not as many bitter comments as I thought.


I just need Boreal or Garcia to "like" our site

Matt
that was my first thought this morning! LOL!

__________________
lamadriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 03:29   #35
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Portugal W.Coast
Boat: Fun&sporty Cat but looking for the one....
Posts: 15
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Well, great news!

I love they´re videos and I love Outremer so it´s a Win / Win situation
__________________
aqu4tro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 06:10   #36
Senior Cruiser
 
solecollector's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2013
Boat: Lagoon 440
Posts: 92
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Patreon ramble.......

This is my favorite couple to watch as they seem the most real to me and they ARE where I will be soon!! So damn awesome that they get a boat like this - they were at the right place at the right time and deserve it. And I truly believe they didn't sell out and this won't change them.... they are who they are and they haven't changed from the first video to the latest. But I see a problem coming up for them soon.

I assume Patreon is a large part of their income. As of right now they bring in $7,000 per video (which is pretty much per week - 1 video per week). I don't know what their cut is but I assume it is in the $6,000 range which equates to a nice chunk of money to cruise on. More than most of us could come up with.

Patreon is a POWERFUL tool and helps people who need funds to help reach their dreams. But when people reach their dreams or exceeded them, why would someone continue to fund their account? I personally fund Kombi Life, White Spot Pirates and others because I feel they need the money to continue their journey..... I don't want them to quit and I feel if they don't keep getting money in they will stop documenting their trip because of lack of funds! And believe me - it is hard to shoot and edit... camera equipment isn't free. And when you are working on editing videos you aren't working on your boat or random jobs to support your lifestyle.

Having said all of this - who the hell knows what La Vagabond's financial status is...??!!! As all of us know - upgrade to a cat - upgrade the bank account. And I assume they didn't just give them a million dollar boat as there would be significant taxes associated with it. So they are going to need more money to continue what they are doing - but are people willing to pay for ver 2.0? Will people feel they need their support to continue the film making aspect on a million dollar platform?
__________________
solecollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 06:45   #37
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 417
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

For folks who value the illusion of "real" - RAN sailing is probably the best YouTube channel. Low budget, extremely high production value, sailor who has been to southern Atlantic/South Georgia.

Less singing. Maybe with enough followers they can get a free HR
__________________
We are sailors, constantly moving forward while looking back. We travel alone, together and as one - to satisfy our curiosity, and ward off our fear of what should happen if we don't.
SV DestinyAscen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 06:45   #38
Registered User
 
Greene's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Boat: Com-Pac 23/3
Posts: 131
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Good on them! We enjoy their humor, joy of life and of course their lovely accents. The sailing platform isn't that important to us. Cat or mono. Mega-condo or fixer upper, 27' or 60'. Doesn't matter a bit. It is all about their personalities mixed with the cruising lifestyle that have us as loyal followers.

Mike and Brenda
Greene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 07:35   #39
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: East Coast, UK
Posts: 27
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Recently got into their videos after watching Guido Sailing videos on Youtube.

I always thought that riley seemed like he would prefer a cat. Though he did say, if he were to do it again he'd have got a smaller boat.
__________________
mikedefieslife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 07:47   #40
Registered User
 
mottseng's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: 1985 Canadian Sailcraft CS30
Posts: 323
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

WHAT..... they are moving to a Cat ????

Thats not a real sailboat.....off my viewing list now.
__________________
mottseng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 10:27   #41
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 41
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

$6000 per video after fees lets say. 50 videos a year, that's a yearly income of $300,000. Wow. So that's how they can afford a new Outremer.

It's interesting to me how some people choose to fund someone else's rich and care free lifestyle.

I doubt most of their viewers make $300,000 a year, so for many it's likely a donation to people who are much better off than themselves!

Amazing. Brilliant really.

I personally find their videos vapid and narcissistic, and can't bear to watch them, but I admire their marketing skills.
__________________
fabgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 10:35   #42
Registered User
 
mottseng's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ontario Canada
Boat: 1985 Canadian Sailcraft CS30
Posts: 323
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Quote:
Originally Posted by fabgo View Post
$6000 per video after fees lets say. 50 videos a year, that's a yearly income of $300,000. Wow. So that's how they can afford a new Outremer.

It's interesting to me how some people choose to fund someone else's rich and care free lifestyle.

I doubt most of their viewers make $300,000 a year, so for many it's likely a donation to people who are much better off than themselves!

Amazing. Brilliant really.

I personally find their videos vapid and narcissistic, and can't bear to watch them, but I admire their marketing skills.
I agree there are two ways to look at this. You watch their videos and find value in either the content or the entertainment and subsequently pay for it. Much like going to the movies. I am however with you on this that I struggle to fund someone else's chosen lifestyle. They do put out a good product that is well edited and at times entertaining. I suspect that a great part of their day is either filming or editing which is something I have no skill or desire to do. So is what they do and the effort they put into it worth something to you?
__________________
mottseng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 10:42   #43
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Sweden
Posts: 8
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Quote:
Originally Posted by fabgo View Post
It's interesting to me how some people choose to fund someone else's rich and care free lifestyle.

I doubt most of their viewers make $300,000 a year, so for many it's likely a donation to people who are much better off than themselves!
Why do people pay for Netflix subscriptions?
Why do people pay for movie tickets?

It's a form of entertainment like any other, but it's unique in that you don't have to pay to watch a youtube video like you have to pay to see a movie or a TV series. Some people choose to pay anyway since it probably takes a lot of time to film and edit these things.

Since you dislike them you don't have to. It's the beauty of a free market and free choice
__________________
P.Eriksson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 10:45   #44
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 78
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Yeah they really did a good job for themselves... not sure if when they started making videos they could have ever imagined making as much as they do. My wife and I watch their videos every week. We are 31 and about to start our own sailing journey, it is neat to watch their videos, but we are more inspired by the likes of Totem who have done it with families of their own (we have 3 girls). I've thought about making YouTube videos, not sure about Patreon though.

I hope it goes well for them. Hopefully they didn't lock themselves into years of payments, perhaps Outremer is "loaning" it to them?
__________________
sailingunity is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2016, 10:55   #45
Senior Cruiser
 
SV THIRD DAY's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Morro Bay, CA
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,181
Re: SV La Vagabonde new ride

Why does how much money they make/have or the type of boat they have matter to the quality and entertainment value of their Videos?

It doesn't...or at least it shouldn't unless people get hung up on the class envy game that's pushed these days. 1%-ers are not evil bastards and everyone with a Cat is a 1%-er...I hate to break the news to you. People liked them before you did the math and figured out their Patron income was close to $300K/yr and you liked them when they were on a more average boat, so what would that change?

But here is what I know....
People are making it sound like what they are doing is now WORK...and I'll call BS on that! It is a LOT of work and putting out a quality video once/week is MORE work than most of us did back in our real world jobs from 9-5. When we were cruising we had a few thousand blog viewers per day and made a daily blog post and it was WORK to put out something of quality.
__________________

__________________
Rich Boren Living Aboard in Morro Bay, CA and the owner of:
Cruise RO Water High Output Water Makers
Technautics CoolBlue Refrigeration

SV THIRD DAY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
La Vagabonde - Hopeful Charity help in Pacific. gypsyvagabond Off Topic Forum 1 12-12-2015 13:35
New Member From Egypt .. (Yep I Ride Camels ...) Vulkyn Meets & Greets 5 04-12-2013 14:19
Crew Available: Crew Wanted? - looking for a ride from New Zealand Doreen-Andreas Crew Archives 0 17-05-2012 22:15
Costs of the Bumfuzzle's new ride! Doodles General Sailing Forum 36 16-04-2012 16:56
Anyone Seen or Been for a Ride on the New Seaward 46RK videorov Monohull Sailboats 0 24-03-2012 20:32


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:52.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.