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Old 09-08-2015, 06:33   #16
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Re: Sunreef Catamarans, do they sail any good?

Yes the outremer 59 5x is 14t and fast that's why I like them a lot it's my choice of cat if to buy one
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Re: Sunreef Catamarans, do they sail any good?

You have to wonder how they managed to get a 60 foot cat to weigh 32 tonnes? Did they fit ballast? Incredible.
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You have to wonder how they managed to get a 60 foot cat to weigh 32 tonnes? Did they fit ballast? Incredible.
I also saw their spec for the 62 at 22 tons, not 32.

Lagoon managed to get their 450 up to 18 tons lightship (and before adding any options), so it seems easy to get a 62' to 22 tons. Heck, Lagoon's 620 comes in over 32 tones lightship, so Sunreef slacked off a bit on theirs.

You were just way too lazy on your build.

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Re: Sunreef Catamarans, do they sail any good?

People thanks for the good advise and helping me make up my mind.
Style and Comfort vs. Speed is what it boils down to. I'm about to retire. I hope to not even care what day it is let alone time. Plus I'm used to a Beneteau 54 which isn't that quick.

So I'm going to opt for the Sunreef and just pack a few more beers for long journeys. I'd rather arrive in comfort a few days later than frazzled and by myself at the front of the fleet.

And for the record in regards to displacement Sunreef have commented: -
Our 33 MT is calculated as the (complete) boat, which is fully equipped (as bigger engines, water maker, air conditioning etc.) so the final amount is set on this level, it is regular for our boats to keep the best quality on board. FP and other brands can offer the boat with lower MT scores as those boats are basic and have line equipment with finishing and are empty indeed, which means no options on board.
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Re: Sunreef Catamarans, do they sail any good?

Where do you plan to keep the boat and cruise?
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Yes the outremer 59 5x is 14t and fast that's why I like them a lot it's my choice of cat if to buy one
How about an MC2 60? 9.3 t lightship.

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I'd rather arrive in comfort a few days later than frazzled and by myself at the front of the fleet.

And for the record in regards to displacement Sunreef have commented: -
Our 33 MT is calculated as the (complete) boat, which is fully equipped (as bigger engines, water maker, air conditioning etc.) so the final amount is set on this level, it is regular for our boats to keep the best quality on board. FP and other brands can offer the boat with lower MT scores as those boats are basic and have line equipment with finishing and are empty indeed, which means no options on board.
Of course the other way of looking at it is that the faster boat has spend a few extra days comfortably anchored (in the best spot), sleeping at night, having barbecues, etc.. while you were still out there on passage, keeping watch etc etc....

And the difference in motion at sea between a fast cat' and a slow one is probably much less than you'd think.
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I also saw their spec for the 62 at 22 tons, not 32.

Lagoon managed to get their 450 up to 18 tons lightship (and before adding any options), so it seems easy to get a 62' to 22 tons. Heck, Lagoon's 620 comes in over 32 tones lightship, so Sunreef slacked off a bit on theirs.

You were just way too lazy on your build.

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Where do you plan to keep the boat and cruise?
No fixed address. First year we will do the Baltic/north sea then head to the med or Canary is or even Caribbean for winter. Most of our time will be in the med.
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