Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > Multihull Sailboats
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-09-2015, 17:46   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2
Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

I am about to buy a 2004 Gemini 105MC but am hesitant due to about 20% of all the topside having spider cracks. Based on research this seems common for the Gemini. Do the cracks continue to get worse as the boat ages? The answer will help determine if I buy or not. Looking for some guidance from Gemini owners. I love the boat, but not all the cracks.
-Mike
mandrj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 02:49   #2
Registered User
 
Dulcesuenos's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
Images: 4
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Its common and no biggie, I believe it slows down and I've seen gems painted and have not seen the cracking continue once painted.

Sent from my LG-LS980 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
Dulcesuenos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 03:04   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 266
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Spider cracks can be chased, filled, sanded and painted (or re-gel-coated.) Some will return.

Some folks will tell you all boats get them. They can be engineered out, but few builders take the effort. The main cause is that the underlying structure is moving/ flexing etc. Also, you have different expansion rates between gelcoat and glass and structure.

Sometimes, they also betray an impact.
paxfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 04:37   #4
cat herder, extreme blacksheep

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
Images: 56
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

also known as stress cracks, theese can easily be covered with epoxy paint, which is the most common way to disappear them that is not a cure and yes they return on other boats with stress cracking.
i am always hesitant when i see a stress cracked deck.
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 05:28   #5
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,448
Images: 241
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Mike.
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 08:06   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Delray Beach, Fl
Boat: 1998 Rosborough 246 LSV
Posts: 563
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

My previous Gem had a spider colony worth of cracks. I think they are cosmetic - painted the deck every year or so with house paint - kept it looking OK.

Gem's are not very well made - but they are a lot of boat for the money. You can keep them running yourself with attention - as they get older, it makes sense to convert to an outboard, but otherwise they seem to run OK.
__________________
Capt. Stuart Bell
Rosborough 246 LSV Shearwater V
stu@shearwater-sailing.com
captstu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 08:12   #7
Registered User
 
LeeV's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Md
Boat: 2013 FP Lipari 41
Posts: 1,298
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Very common; mostly gel coat. We had tons on our 1987 Catalina. Used Capt. Tolleys crack cure and it worked well for our purposes. Had a 1986 Condor 40 tri and after painting it, all were gone and didn't resurface by the time I sold the boat.

~Lee
Getting closer to a 2004 Corsair 36 tri!
__________________
LeeV
Lipari 41
s/v AMERICAN HONEY
LeeV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 10:12   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Annapolis
Boat: 1980 Tartan 33
Posts: 86
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Owned a 2004 Mc for 10 years Minor spider cracks never got significantly worse with time. Not a structural issue.
Jack Lahr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 11:15   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,002
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Unless there are signs of an impact or other major damage, they are typically just cosmetic. The boat is built fine but to keep weight down, the fiberglass flexs a little and that causes spider cracks without any additional damage.

Now if you were buying a 40,000lb full keel tank of a boat, I would be worried.
valhalla360 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-09-2015, 13:01   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 55
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Try this to repair spider cracks in gelcoat. These cracks are mostly cosmetic and are easy to repair. You need to get an alkyd satin paint that matches your gelcoat color. A simple way to do this to take a hatch cover or other outside piece to Home Depot where they can measure the color of your faded gelcoat. Buy a water based alkyd satin paint. Using a small brush cover the crack with the paint. Immediately wipe all excess paint off with paper towel. The colored paint will fill the spider cracks and make them disappear. Have been doing this on my 1973 Islander 30 MKII sailboat for years.

While you are at it as you have a matching paint consider painting the nonskid in the cockpit sole...and ?
Dean Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2015, 14:01   #11
Marine Service Provider
 
makana's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Camden ME - Bahamas
Boat: Admiral 38 catamaran
Posts: 70
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

We have some gel coat cracks in our catamaran, we sailed our across the Atlantic and to and from Maine to the Bahamas for the past 8 years, any FRP catamaran which has sailed will have cracks. it used to bum me out until I went to the Annapolis boat show a few years ago and went aboard a brand new Catana costing well over a million $ and noticed gel coat cracks.
makana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-2015, 22:39   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Folks, thanks for the feedback. Had an expert fiberglass guy look at them and assured me it was purely cosmetic. However, when looking at the boat we noticed a hook in the hulls aft due to the cradle it sat on with not enough surface area to properly handle the weight.
Anybody have this issue? We see no cracks, so should I stay away or pursue purchase. Appreciate any advice!
mandrj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-09-2015, 03:47   #13
Registered User
 
Dulcesuenos's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
Images: 4
Re: Spider Cracks on Gemini Sailboat

Join gemini owners group on yahoo. They should be better to answer this question.

Sent from my LG-LS980 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
Dulcesuenos is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gemini, sail, sailboat


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are Spider Cracks Cosmetic? campuscab Monohull Sailboats 25 26-08-2013 14:32
Spider cracks margav Construction, Maintenance & Refit 15 14-07-2013 20:15
Spider Cracks vistech1 Monohull Sailboats 6 12-02-2013 04:04
SPIDER CRACKS kbrantfish Multihull Sailboats 5 05-02-2013 15:32
Spider Ural_RUS Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 03-07-2008 14:59

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.