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Old 01-07-2008, 16:01   #1
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Speed with a cruisingcat?

If you compare F-P 36-40, Lagoon 380-420, Nautitech 40-44 and other brands. Like Atlantic, schionningdesign, or simular not so ordinary cats.

The cat is for cruising over atlantic and the med.

What speed to expect from a cruisingcat?
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:46   #2
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Well, the Bumfuzzles claim to have averaged about 3.5 knots and if you read their logs, they seem to have motored more than 50 % of the time.
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Well, the Bumfuzzles claim to have averaged about 3.5 knots and if you read their logs, they seem to have motored more than 50 % of the time.
You're correct, sneuman, and somewhere in the logs Pat says that they motored more than half the time. In fact, somewhere he said something like, "We didn't so much sail around the world, as drive around."

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Old 02-07-2008, 06:08   #4
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About Topspeed on a lagoon, f-p and nautitech compared to...

outremer, catana, freydis etc.
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Just got back from a month in the Abacos in our Wildcat 350. Had to motor over since the wind was on our nose the entire crossing. Averaged 5.5 knots against the wind. On the way back while undersail we averaged 6.2 knots varying from a beam reach to pointing 45 to 60 degrees into the wind. Top speed was 7.9 knots on a broad reach. And we were pretty loaded down.
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Plan on 120 nm a day try for 150 hope for 180. (and thats only if you are prepared to use the motor to keep the average up)
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That will vary with load, and design. Not to mention which direction the weather is coming from. I have about 10,000 miles on my cat now. Sailing area from the N. Caribbean to N.E. Florida. Back, and forth many times in, and out of the Bahamas.

We see some midteens, and a lot of low teens when sailing off the wind. Recently we sailed from Miami to Bimini, and it took us 17 hours with 20 & 30 knots of wind on the nose. Usually it takes us 6, or 7 hours motoring, or sailing. It was the slowest, and ugliest trip we have experienced with Imagine, but we were still moving flat.

I have never done the math, but I guess we average about 8 knots. Dave from Maxingout having done a circumnavigation can give you some better numbers. Following the trades is always a plus any any type of vessel you sail.
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On longer passages we calculate with 10 knots average but we do a bit better normally
With A Maxim 380 we averaged 6 knots
With A St Francis 48 around 9 knots
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pdq 36 in trade wind conditions was about 8 knots without flying a chute and dragging all of our worldly possessions with us. St Francis 44 went from lauderdale to annapolis in 4 days, so around 250 miles per day. Really depends on the boat and how much you've loaded her down.
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Thanks all, planning time.
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The key to speed in any cruising cat is keeping them light and keeping the bottom clean. We do OK with the bottom, but when you are hauling 6 months of provisions, SCUBA gear, tools, spares, etc. the light part is really tough.

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How do you find the St Francis?
What sort of VMG speed can you plan for long voyages?
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How do you find the St Francis?
What sort of VMG speed can you plan for long voyages?
With My St Francis 48 we plan with 8 to 9 knots and this is the only lightweight version build so a normal one will do 7 to 8 knots.
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You're correct, sneuman, and somewhere in the logs Pat says that they motored more than half the time. In fact, somewhere he said something like, "We didn't so much sail around the world, as drive around."

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I do not know if you have ever sailed a Wildcat but it is almost impossible to sail them
they are overweight , sloppy build and have a smal rig on top of that.
I have sailed wildcats and the max speed i have seen once was 8.5 knots and that was in optimal conditions 23 knots of wind 120 app. gennaker flying
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Ok - some opinions

I have to say I admire your guts for being so open on a public forum - that is a compliment.

Would you like to venture your opinions of what speeds you can reasonably plan a voyage on for the say a Leopard 46, A Voyager 50 and a FP 48?

I understand the answer would just be your opinion but it would help me balance the info with a lot of other info I am being told.

For example I was told I can passage plan a Lagoon 500 at 8.5 knots.
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