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Old 19-08-2008, 06:49   #1
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Specing a New Cat

As may know I have ordered a St Francis 50.

Gideon has made some good suggestions for improvements but I am sure there are more. So if anyone has any ideas on what I should spec please use this thread to fire away.

I an trying to think of every aspect in advance .... I know I will not get it 100 per cent but the harder I try the nearer it will be to 100 per cent.

I have already lifted many suggestions from the forum and have a long list to investigate.

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as regards water cooled fridges - these do not work well out of the water so for that reason i was thinking of standard electric fridges.

I think the LED lights are not to CE standard. Otherwise I would not hesitate.
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As may know I have ordered a St Francis 50.

Gideon has made some good suggestions for improvements but I am sure there are more. So if anyone has any ideas on what I should spec please use this thread to fire away.

I an trying to think of every aspect in advance .... I know I will not get it 100 per cent but the harder I try the nearer it will be to 100 per cent.

I have already lifted many suggestions from the forum and have a long list to investigate.

Gideon
as regards water cooled fridges - these do not work well out of the water so for that reason i was thinking of standard electric fridges.

I think the LED lights are not to CE standard. Otherwise I would not hesitate.
Hallo Paul

All Hella Nav lights are CE certified .
Why would you have your boat out of the water ?
The water is drawn in to cool the Freon threw an inter cooler and the other advantage is that it is noiseless while these fans make noise.
The heat the air cooled units generate needs to be taken out again with air conditioning and this is double energy wastage.
The standard anchor winch made by Lofrans I would change for the type made by Muir from Australia much better quality in my opinion.
We use stainless anchor chain Duplex anchor chain and since you will cruise the world 100 meters is advisable.

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If you like fishing also get the outside fridge as an option if you have not done that already
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:19   #3
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Another Item I find advisable that we now install as standard on all the cats is the OSRAM Puritec UV water purification with Ultraviolet light
One unit in each tank and you have clean taste free water .

Putting the chloric acid tablets is a disaster for the taste.

just click on the link

http://www.osram.com/_global/pdf/Pro...ritec_LPS9.pdf

and the New Mobilert man overboard Vpirb

VPIRB Mobilarm V100 – Not just another PLB | Mobilarm - Man overboard safety systems

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Old 19-08-2008, 08:31   #4
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An armchair. The sort you can nap (sleep soundly in) while crew take the watch.
Rough weather seating seems sadly lacking, probably because it's space hungry, but there's nothing like a fully relaxed twenty winks to freshen up the mind.
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Over extended time, will the UV light not affect the epoxy in the water tanks?
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Over extended time, will the UV light not affect the epoxy in the water tanks?
No it will not , we have tested it and use a special UV resistant water tank paint.
The unit works wonder and we have installed it over a timer so it works 3 hours per day only when the water pump is active
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An armchair. The sort you can nap (sleep soundly in) while crew take the watch.
Rough weather seating seems sadly lacking, probably because it's space hungry, but there's nothing like a fully relaxed twenty winks to freshen up the mind.
I'm not sure if the SF50 is even big enough for a full blown recliner but I would speak to them about having the two settee (couch) corners square rather than curved. I don't know about the rest of you but I do like to put my feet up and a curved settee doesn't give you anywhere to lean against. Gideon has got it right with the Fastcat as it's still the most comfortable couch I have sat on mainly because of the square corners.
Things like this might be minor but its much better being comfortable when watching the TV, reading a book or on watch.
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Thanks for the interesting suggestions.
We will look into the UV and we are designing a comfortable sleep area in the saloon for the skipper.
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Thanks for the interesting suggestions.
We will look into the UV and we are designing a comfortable sleep area in the saloon for the skipper.
Make sure the back angle of your seating in the saloon is 15 degrees since ergonomically that makes the most comfortable seating .
90 degree corners work best on the front side of your table both left and right

Underwater LED lights are very nice to have under the rear transoms

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Midships cleats

Strongly reinforced bits forward and/or aft for parachute anchor or series drogue.

A keel cooler is a much better way of cooling refridgerant - and does not require a fan or extra water pump. It also avoids the water inlet being chocked by crustaceans - see latest PBO.

designed in aft anchor and cable storage - will be very useful for mediterranean moor bows to.

bow and or aft shore walkway (forgot the correct name)

SSB

hot tub

party lights

storage racks for food supplies

workshop + boat spares

cycle racks

designed in liferaft stowage

There might be a few tongue in cheek suggestions mixed in!!!
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What wood and fabrics/leather will you choose? What style... ? Teak or not?

(The testsailing videos with Fastcat and St-Francis? ready?)
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Everybody is going to give you tons of advice, and most if it very good. Sooner, or later you will be in WEATHER. Not the good stuff, but the kind of stuff where you want to hang on, and most likely it will be wet.

On my cat the P.O. put in a special piece of wood at the rear of the house's roof. You can see it right in front of my wife's nose. This wood is indented in the forward edge. Here you can get a good grip to let yourself down, or pick yourself up. The indentation is nearly half the size of the thickness of the wood.This ridge also prevents water from coming over the edge like a gutter.

BEST WISHES in making your boat as close to, or even perfect for you. I love my boat, but if, or when I ever build my own boat. I know there are things I will tweak to make her safer, and better.

I do keep one of those plastic chairs that look like an Andaronick chair in my salon. I use cushions to make it VERY COMFY.
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Order your tender with a GPS and fathometer for scouting out channels in areas with large scale nav charts or lousy ATON. You can send the dinghy out to plot safe passages if so equipped.
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Old 19-08-2008, 11:00   #15
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"What wood and fabrics/leather will you choose? What style... ? Teak or not? "

We are choosing in SA but fancy something light this time - light but till has to age well.Any suggestions?

"(The testsailing videos with Fastcat and St-Francis? ready?)"

The St Francis one is in production now and will be finished by this weekend.
I have a section where it is beating the wind speed in light winds.
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