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Old 24-04-2015, 23:38   #31
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Re: So Much To Learn...So Intimidating!

You can temporarily fix a lot of things with duct tape. It would have been perfect for your leaking hose, I've done it.


A cat does at least offer some redundancy in the motor/gearbox/fuel tank departments. But still things can break down.


It's pretty hard to say to someone who really has NO mechanical ability, that everything will be alright. It might not.


Maybe better to stay at home, hoping a fuse never blows or a tap never leaks...
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Old 25-04-2015, 08:26   #32
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There's a big difference between maintenance & repair. Smart people know what they don't know. You didn't wait to buy a car or a house until you knew how to repair every part of them & a boat is no different. When you look for a boat to buy you want a boat that was repaired, if necessary, by a professional. Not a do it yourselfer who typically lacks the skill to do a repair in a professional manner. Routine maintenance like changing your oil or fuel filters is different & can easily be learned but you don't need to know how to do "repairs" to own a boat.
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Old 26-04-2015, 18:28   #33
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Great replies from many here. Just a quick add-on. You mentioned smaller boat is not really a solution since it still have everything just smaller scale. Well this is not quite true. A lot of systems that you have on larger boat you will not have on a smaller one. Pressurized water, windlass, bow-thruster, etc etc. Then other things will be smaller which is not just a smaller-scale but actually makes qualitative difference. You can lift and handle things by yourself without cranes and specialized help. Like boom, maybe mast. Heck, on most 26 footers you could probably pull out the engine by yourself with a simple come-along. So there is a lot of difference in maintaining and fixing a smaller boat.

But then you can be like me and jump right into a 39 foot 40+ year old boat as your first boating experience

Except of few occasions while getting it ready, where I was close to either blowing it up or killing myself out of frustration, things have worked out great and I am happy with it.
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Old 26-04-2015, 19:54   #34
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Haha raj. Your story about the guy sorting out the leaky plumbing! Like 44 said, duct tape and fencing wire!
Well the guy didn't do a proper fix, but he got it sorted till your charter is over, which is what it's all about. Making do to the next port to fix it properly. Hopefully they will fix it properly! I can't imagine it would have been bypassed, more likely there's no hot water at the sink or shower till it's repaired properly with a new hose. Most importantly, you did the right thing. Turn off the pump, stop the pressure, assess the situation. Well done.
We have some tape in our tool kit for things like that called rescue tape or self amalgamating tape that works pretty well. You just wrap it around and it forms a nice bandage and seals to itself pretty well. You soon figure out what's handy to have in the tool kit and how you can use a few things for a lot of repairs. I like to have wire coat hangers for the clothes because they're so handy for fixing stuff and there's not much fencing wire laying around in the ocean. Yesterday our wind gear decided to stop working and with no reference for the wind direction we bodgeyed a coat hanger vertically from the bow with a ribbon for a tell tale. Ok the wind gear isn't fixed yet but we managed to sail 30M more easily with a makeshift repair. Actually I like the telltale so it will probably stay even when the electronics are fixed. Most likely it's a corroded connection at the top of the mast so I'll be up there pulling it apart, clean it up and wrap some rescue tape around it.
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Routine maintenance like changing your oil or fuel filters is different & can easily be learned but you don't need to know how to do "repairs" to own a boat.
I disagree.

You SHOULD.

It's a basic safety issue.
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I disagree.

You SHOULD.

It's a basic safety issue.

You don't need to know how to do a fiberglass repair to own a boat. If you don't believe me just ask Robert Redford!
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I understand your dilemma. There was a guy when I got on this site years ago, who thrived on making everyone feel stupid and inadequate. He was full of hot air.

Are you stupid? Ask 3 people who know you well, but who will give you an honest answer. My theory is if you lived to an adult age, you are not hopelessly stupid.

Pass that test and moving on, how have you handled new situations in the past? Why would this be any different?

Do you enjoy your time on a charter boat, or would a root canal be better?

Be honest with yourself. When new people come aboard one of their first comment is how complicated everything appears. I had the same thoughts. As you move along, you realize how simple everything is.

The goal then is to keep your boat simple and easy to sail. I think multihulls require less IQ to sail than a monohull.

I have taken a ABYC Class (marine electrical), Marine Diesel Class, and a long time ago took classes at San Juan Sailing. I got to sail last fall from Seattle to San Francisco. I learned a lot on that 5 day trip.

So in closing, unless you are hopelessly stupid or DEAD the learning process goes on. It is just a matter how open to that you are?

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. I think multihulls require less IQ to sail than a monohull.



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Hahaha I like that. Definitely a good point for the next multi Vs mono thread
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I think our ability to fix our boats gains value as we get further offshore.

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Hahaha I like that. Definitely a good point for the next multi Vs mono thread

And that from someone who had to ask "How much fuel do I need?".

Conversely, the decision to own a multihull demonstrates higher IQ.
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And that from someone who had to ask "How much fuel do I need?".

Conversely, the decision to own a multihull demonstrates higher IQ.
Actually twice the number of hulls means you're twice a dumb.
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Actually twice the number of hulls means you're twice a dumb.
Nahh, it just means that you have twice as many holes in the water into which you throw your money... no IQ required.

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Can venturing out be really fun to someone who is intimidated by learning?

I always thought that travel itch and learning itch have the same source. But I was clearly wrong.

Interesting experience.

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Interesting that the people with mono's see boat ownership as a negative experience...
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Catamaran owners are afraid of being unstable. Monohull owners are already unstable.
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