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Old 18-09-2016, 13:52   #16
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Re: So just what do you consider "Fully Loaded"?

If there is one thing that will drive me from this forum it's will be the oh so superior attitude of people who are not willing to accept that everyone has different needs when they are cruising.

Just because you think a performance oriented catamaran and living a minimalist lifestyle is right for you, doesn't make it right for everyone.

So open your mind and check your attitude please. Cruising is whatever someone makes of it.

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Re: So just what do you consider "Fully Loaded"?

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Its a basic sailaway model, sails, engine and basic nav etc... or the all the bells and whistles version that so many feel essential for sailing up and down the coast harbour hopping...
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If there is one thing that will drive me from this forum it's will be the oh so superior attitude of people who are not willing to accept that everyone has different needs when they are cruising.

Just because you think a performance oriented catamaran and living a minimalist lifestyle is right for you, doesn't make it right for everyone.

So open your mind and check your attitude please. Cruising is whatever someone makes of it.

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Old 18-09-2016, 15:06   #19
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Saw review on another site for the new FP 40.

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Might want to post this in the FP forum here. I would guess things like a full complement of sails (head sails and storm sails), ground tackle, additional electronics, and some general living items (sheets, blankets, dishes, pots and pans) for starters.

I have seen some posts at other sites about Dragonfly tris charging an arm and leg for some upgrades. The thing was that adding electronics can include some structural changes like mounting things in hidden spaces that are best done during construction at the factory. Same goes for something like a bowsprit that may require additional re-enforcement.

I would bet "fully loaded" is a somewhat boat specific term.
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If there is one thing that will drive me from this forum it's will be the oh so superior attitude of people who are not willing to accept that everyone has different needs when they are cruising.

Just because you think a performance oriented catamaran and living a minimalist lifestyle is right for you, doesn't make it right for everyone.

So open your mind and check your attitude please. Cruising is whatever someone makes of it.

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I couldn't agree more.

What these people fail to acknowledge is that a properly designed catamaran can be "fully loaded" and still sail. It may not sail as fast as a lighter "performance " catamaran, but it is seaworthy and safe with that load. Nothing sadder than a "performance " cat that has been overloaded.
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If there is one thing that will drive me from this forum it's will be the oh so superior attitude of people who are not willing to accept that everyone has different needs when they are cruising.

Just because you think a performance oriented catamaran and living a minimalist lifestyle is right for you, doesn't make it right for everyone.

So open your mind and check your attitude please. Cruising is whatever someone makes of it.

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Totally agree! I was wondering - there are thousands of big luxury cats on water, with all kinds of toys and features, happy hybrid boat owners etc.etc. - why they almost never bother to post here? May be they don't want to see this kind of attitude?
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I couldn't agree more.

What these people fail to acknowledge is that a properly designed catamaran can be "fully loaded" and still sail. It may not sail as fast as a lighter "performance " catamaran, but it is seaworthy and safe with that load. Nothing sadder than a "performance " cat that has been overloaded.
I think what you fail to understand is the expression 'Fully Loaded'..
Its not how much personal Junk you can carry..
It refers to all the extra's equipment wise..
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I think what you fail to understand is the expression 'Fully Loaded'..
Its not how much personal Junk you can carry..
It refers to all the extra's equipment wise..
I understand the distinction between the sales phrase "fully loaded" and the nautical term "maximum displacement".
What I don't understand, along with several other participants, is the attitude (posts #12, #15) that carrying a load on a catamaran is necessarily unsafe or undesirable.
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In the case of a cat that's 38 feet long with an unloaded displacement of 8900kg, I suspect fully loaded means you'll be motoring a lot instead of sailing
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So basically the meaning is no freeboard left. Fully loaded.

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Not sure about 12 but pretty sure Barni was being humorous..
Cross Pond misinterpretation..??
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Old 18-09-2016, 17:58   #25
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Re: So just what do you consider "Fully Loaded"?

Found another post with options listing boat at about the 450k mark.
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So smarta**. I will tell why I am so passed at people like you. I am disabled. 8 months ago I had a stroke. After years of small boat sailing on lakes far from an ocean, my retirement plan of buying a boat to enjoy during my later years has been thrown out the window.

For me to be able to sail again, to retire and live on a sailboat, a catamaran that offers me a stable, environment to live on. If you can live without air conditioning or without a watermaker, I admire and respect your choice. I can't and must have those and other so called luxuries to live my life on the water.

All I ask, is that in general, please do not denigrate the choices of others simply because they don't fit into your dynamic of what sailing or cruising should be.

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Re: So just what do you consider "Fully Loaded"?

Amen.

Every one should have as much stuff on their boat as they please.

I am also the first guy to sell people whatever they might want. Huge savings if you buy two of everything. ;-)

A bare bones folkboat for me. A FULLY LOADED Lagoon for somebody else.

And I do accept free ice cubes from those with freezers onboard. Thank you!

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Re: So just what do you consider "Fully Loaded"?

450k is alotalota of dough for a boat that is just 40'. Even if it is a new boat.

I say buy the boat you fall in love with. The one that makes you dream of going somewhere (even if this just means going to the local marina).

But I also say look at alternatives before you buy anything that cost you hours of hard work to earn the balance.

Sure, some inherit, some win ... easy come easy go, as they say.

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Is this not a 'bit pricey'?

The list is full of such items.

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If there is one thing that will drive me from this forum it's will be the oh so superior attitude of people who are not willing to accept that everyone has different needs when they are cruising.

Just because you think a performance oriented catamaran and living a minimalist lifestyle is right for you, doesn't make it right for everyone.

So open your mind and check your attitude please. Cruising is whatever someone makes of it.

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So then, what is your opinion of "fully loaded" ?
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