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Tropic Cat · 24-02-2009, 08:44

You're right, solid hulls, no coring. These boats are built like battleships. Considering the sail area they were designed for, they had to be.

The guy is offering everything. Not a stripped down hull. Engines and equipment are included.

It is an opportunity that doesn't occur often.

djeeke · 24-02-2009, 12:18

I read the letter on your site...

I just sent the owner an e-mail (you are in copy) to get a bit more information on the boat and also asking him why he is not trying to repair the boat himself. (as this might point to more costs than I can estimate right now)

I'm curious...

If it is beached, do you guys think an emergency repair could easily be done on the beach, allowing the boat to be motored or sailed to a yard for proper repair ?

Djeeke

Tropic Cat · 24-02-2009, 12:47

That's a difficult question. I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic to have any knowledge of the Brittany coast line. In order to breach a solid Fiberglass hull, it would have to be smashed against rocks.

I'm certain the owner has photos of the damaged area. Your email to the owner was the correct action to begin the process of asking the right questions.

Southern Star · 24-02-2009, 14:04

Djeeke, I'm sure the boat isn't merely beached - and that the damage to the hulls is going to require more than a quick, on-site fix. That being said, in relatively calm conditions you could likely tow her a short distance to a yard by lining the damaged parts of the hulls with mats and then filling them with some large inner tubes. I've seen inner tubes used to float sunken keelboats, so the cat shouldn't be a problem.

The fact that the rig is apparently intact is good news (as obviously the structural damage hasn't extended to the chain plates). The initial issue may be in getting her off of the shore - dragging her off sounds like a recipe for disaster, and a barge with a sufficiently large crane will no doubt be expensive.

Brad

djeeke · 24-02-2009, 14:36

Hi Brad !

Yup, I think too the damage will be more that just a small breach, as he mentions the two engines were in the water and now in a shop...
If repair costs would be reasonable, I can't see why the current owner would decide to give his boat away or otherwise just cut it to pieces...

Repair costs might be higher that the current value of the boat (not to mention towing it to a boatyard as you mention)

Let's wait for his reply to my mail...

Tropic Cat · 24-02-2009, 16:20

I'm rather curious myself. If it's not too much trouble, could you keep us informed?

djeeke · 24-02-2009, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tropic Cat

I'm rather curious myself. If it's not too much trouble, could you keep us informed?

No trouble at all

djeeke · 28-02-2009, 08:09

No response to my mails yet...

Strange story if one asks, I wrote in French (mother tongue) as well as English so I guess he should have been able to understand my questions...

djeeke · 28-02-2009, 08:53

Anybody able to tell me something about the Prout Ranger series?

There is a 34 ft ranger for sale at a bargain price, I am expecting pictures today and I guess I will need to plan a visit to this boat soon...

You guys know by now I am planning to see some Iroquois catamaran's, this is obviously a different boat...
But I suppose a this 34 ft Ranger has a quite some more accommodation space than anIroquois. The budget is equal though so this might nice for us (we plan to live long periods on the boat so additional space is welcome).

I am expecting more details this evening...

Thanks for any idea's on this one...

Sea Wolf · 28-02-2009, 10:14

Djeeke,
Log onto CruisersLife.com, go to the visitors page and leave me your email address. I have friends who owned a Ranger years ago. They loved it. I'll have them contact you directly.

Loree
Aboard SeaWolf
CruisersLife.com

djeeke · 28-02-2009, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Wolf

Djeeke,
Log onto CruisersLife.com, go to the visitors page and leave me your email address.

done

Sea Wolf · 09-03-2009, 13:36

Djeeke,
Have you heard from Robin Hodges? I got an email from him the other day that he would be in touch.

Loree
Aboard SeaWolf
CruisersLife.com

djeeke · 09-03-2009, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Wolf

Djeeke,
Have you heard from Robin Hodges?

Yup Loree !
He asked me a few basic questions and would have a look around, then come back to me...
Thank you for the introduction

Sea Wolf · 10-03-2009, 14:28

Djeeke,
Glad you heard from him. Don't know how many older Geminis are in the EU, but Robin would most likely have a line on any. Good luck.

Loree
Aboard SeaWolf
CruisersLife.com

Tropic Cat · 18-03-2009, 16:31

Give us an idea of what your budget is.

24-02-2009, 08:44	#1
Tropic Cat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Boat: Catalac Catamaran Posts: 1,792	You're right, solid hulls, no coring. These boats are built like battleships. Considering the sail area they were designed for, they had to be. The guy is offering everything. Not a stripped down hull. Engines and equipment are included. It is an opportunity that doesn't occur often. __________________ Sailing 12 months a year in Sunny Florida Catalac Catamaran info site

24-02-2009, 12:18	#2
djeeke Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium Boat: Jaguar 27 - Nothing else matters Posts: 94	Thanks Rick ! I read the letter on your site... I just sent the owner an e-mail (you are in copy) to get a bit more information on the boat and also asking him why he is not trying to repair the boat himself. (as this might point to more costs than I can estimate right now) I'm curious... If it is beached, do you guys think an emergency repair could easily be done on the beach, allowing the boat to be motored or sailed to a yard for proper repair ? Djeeke __________________ Nothing else matters 1987 Jaguar 27 Sailing around Dutch waters

24-02-2009, 12:47	#3
Tropic Cat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Boat: Catalac Catamaran Posts: 1,792	That's a difficult question. I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic to have any knowledge of the Brittany coast line. In order to breach a solid Fiberglass hull, it would have to be smashed against rocks. I'm certain the owner has photos of the damaged area. Your email to the owner was the correct action to begin the process of asking the right questions. __________________ Sailing 12 months a year in Sunny Florida Catalac Catamaran info site

24-02-2009, 14:36	#5
djeeke Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium Boat: Jaguar 27 - Nothing else matters Posts: 94	Hi Brad ! Yup, I think too the damage will be more that just a small breach, as he mentions the two engines were in the water and now in a shop... If repair costs would be reasonable, I can't see why the current owner would decide to give his boat away or otherwise just cut it to pieces... Repair costs might be higher that the current value of the boat (not to mention towing it to a boatyard as you mention) Let's wait for his reply to my mail... __________________ Nothing else matters 1987 Jaguar 27 Sailing around Dutch waters

24-02-2009, 16:20	#6
Tropic Cat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Boat: Catalac Catamaran Posts: 1,792	I'm rather curious myself. If it's not too much trouble, could you keep us informed? __________________ Sailing 12 months a year in Sunny Florida Catalac Catamaran info site

24-02-2009, 14:04	#4
Southern Star Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur' Posts: 1,014	Djeeke, I'm sure the boat isn't merely beached - and that the damage to the hulls is going to require more than a quick, on-site fix. That being said, in relatively calm conditions you could likely tow her a short distance to a yard by lining the damaged parts of the hulls with mats and then filling them with some large inner tubes. I've seen inner tubes used to float sunken keelboats, so the cat shouldn't be a problem. The fact that the rig is apparently intact is good news (as obviously the structural damage hasn't extended to the chain plates). The initial issue may be in getting her off of the shore - dragging her off sounds like a recipe for disaster, and a barge with a sufficiently large crane will no doubt be expensive. Brad

28-02-2009, 08:09	#8
djeeke Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium Boat: Jaguar 27 - Nothing else matters Posts: 94	No response to my mails yet... Strange story if one asks, I wrote in French (mother tongue) as well as English so I guess he should have been able to understand my questions... __________________ Nothing else matters 1987 Jaguar 27 Sailing around Dutch waters

28-02-2009, 08:53	#9
djeeke Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium Boat: Jaguar 27 - Nothing else matters Posts: 94	Prout Ranger 34 Anybody able to tell me something about the Prout Ranger series? There is a 34 ft ranger for sale at a bargain price, I am expecting pictures today and I guess I will need to plan a visit to this boat soon... You guys know by now I am planning to see some Iroquois catamaran's, this is obviously a different boat... But I suppose a this 34 ft Ranger has a quite some more accommodation space than anIroquois. The budget is equal though so this might nice for us (we plan to live long periods on the boat so additional space is welcome). I am expecting more details this evening... Thanks for any idea's on this one... __________________ Nothing else matters 1987 Jaguar 27 Sailing around Dutch waters

28-02-2009, 10:14	#10
Sea Wolf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Living aboard in North Miami, Florida Boat: Prout, Quasar, 50' - Sea Wolf Posts: 98	Djeeke, Log onto CruisersLife.com, go to the visitors page and leave me your email address. I have friends who owned a Ranger years ago. They loved it. I'll have them contact you directly. Loree Aboard SeaWolf CruisersLife.com

09-03-2009, 13:36	#12
Sea Wolf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Living aboard in North Miami, Florida Boat: Prout, Quasar, 50' - Sea Wolf Posts: 98	Djeeke, Have you heard from Robin Hodges? I got an email from him the other day that he would be in touch. Loree Aboard SeaWolf CruisersLife.com

10-03-2009, 14:28	#14
Sea Wolf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Living aboard in North Miami, Florida Boat: Prout, Quasar, 50' - Sea Wolf Posts: 98	Djeeke, Glad you heard from him. Don't know how many older Geminis are in the EU, but Robin would most likely have a line on any. Good luck. Loree Aboard SeaWolf CruisersLife.com

18-03-2009, 16:31	#15
Tropic Cat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Boat: Catalac Catamaran Posts: 1,792	Give us an idea of what your budget is. __________________ Sailing 12 months a year in Sunny Florida Catalac Catamaran info site

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