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Old 04-01-2015, 19:15   #1
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Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

Anyone care to recommend some smaller/affordable but still bluewater-capable cats? I'm not looking for the extremes (not planning to round cape horn, nor interested in following the guy cruising the pacific in a beach cat), just a solid cat for cruising the pacific. Something like a prout snowgoose (but smaller) or a gemini (but more stout). For perspective, I currently cruise the sea of cortez for 4 months at a time in a 27' trailer sailor (balboa 27) so I'm not looking for luxury.
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Old 04-01-2015, 19:41   #2
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I'd be looking at the beneteau blue two for sale.


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Old 04-01-2015, 20:02   #3
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Re: small/affordable bluewater capable cats?

Take a look at the PDQ 32/34. Likely not considered "blue water" but for what I've read it seems like a very well built, affordable and fast boat. There is a pdq owners forum where you can read from those who have taken their PDQs around the world.


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Old 04-01-2015, 21:34   #5
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Re: small/affordable bluewater capable cats?

Look for a 34/35 Snowgoose, same as the 37, just shorter.
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small/affordable bluewater capable cats?

I would seriously consider the PDQ 36 LRC (with inboard diesels and a hardtop).
A very well built long distance cruising machine that will take care of you and have good resale value.
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FP Antigua 37 takes care of our family of five beautifully during a 14 month cruise of the Med. /petter
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Re: small/affordable bluewater capable cats?

i would not call my "solaris 42" a small boat has a 18 foot beam and i am not capable of single handing her ,, but she is for sale and the price is right ,, listed here in cruisers classified ,, i almost bought a prout and looked at a gemini and a catalac ,, none had the room i was looking for .. but she most assuredly a blue water boat !!!!
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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

What is small? 30 foot Iroquois or 34 foot PDQ or 27 foot Catalac?
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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

There are a number of Heavenly Twins 26ft centre cockpits circumnavigating. You can consider any of the Prouts, the PDQ is excellent, then there are the older Fountain Pajots (35/37) as well as the TP lagoons (37ft). There are a small number of South African Island Spirit 35/37's also knocking around. We have also seen several fibreglass Woods designed Sagitta's (low 30 something feet) that really impressed with their space and sailing ability - but they seem very rare. The Woods Flica 35/37 is also a great ocean boat if built in GRP (there are also a few ply versions - I wouldn't touch those). Depends upon what you call small and your budget.
In my opinion, if budget is also tight, go for one of the older Prouts - very tough and shall not depreciate further.
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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

Good luck finding a PDQ. You'd want the 39. Friends had a 36 and said they would not go off shore in it, so they traded up for a Manta 42. Many of the production boats can be had for a good price. Stay away from the Geminis, they are strictly coastal cruisers.

Also, think about what you really need/want in the way of space. My husband is 6'4" and really wanted head space. That alone will narrow down your options.

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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

First, what do you consider affordable? I have owned a Fountaine P 35 foot Tobago. It was a nice boat with lots of room and sailed fairly well for a cat. I had no major problems with her but she was only sailed in the coastal pacific area and never in more then 40 kts. The only thing I didn't like was where the steering station was limited visibility severely when the main was up.
I have Captained a Gemini on a charter and have to say I would never consider chartering this again let alone owning one. the visibility was terrible as you had to look through the cabin to see forward. The steering was extremely stiff ( I still believe something was wrong with it but this was a brand new boat) and the floor underneath me was getting pounded by waves even in a small swell.
I have sailed many larger cats but these are the only two that I think you would be able to pick up for under 100K
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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

I just saw the guys reply about the Beneteau. I live in Los Angles and have seen this beneteau 35 cat for 75 K in San Diego. I don't know much about it but I currently have a 40 Beneteau monohull and am pleased with it. Here is the link if you want

>>BENETEAU 35' SAILING CATAMARAN, VERY FAST , EXCELLENT CONDITION
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Re: Small/Affordable Bluewater Capable Cats?

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Good luck finding a PDQ. You'd want the 39. Friends had a 36 and said they would not go off shore in it, so they traded up for a Manta 42. Many of the production boats can be had for a good price. Stay away from the Geminis, they are strictly coastal cruisers.

Also, think about what you really need/want in the way of space. My husband is 6'4" and really wanted head space. That alone will narrow down your options.

Good luck.

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PDQ never made a 39'er, and the PDQ 36 is very well built.
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